From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROyzO-0002Tz-6J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:50:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4DD221C122; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D621C112 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg19 with SMTP id 19so634777wyg.40 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LVDNB5mPKZE2aQPqDpS+msKV19DlAxA37I5B97QSDEo=; b=XERE0W6o+Uy0VFgkDU9kKRKVlv/Y7DPfMUPa1wl52+OaMEvoY18OeZlxnRaCaeaMfh 6eFCQsEkKwjMF01aZ/LIYRAzWwsraQtGdYXacSOCZnvQ7Db+7Ora7mhd/SVSONzfAuQw yMx52S0AxyZUvbJD1SkUiB6BfRcjS+zvzLXwY= Received: by 10.180.108.114 with SMTP id hj18mr16186021wib.2.1321048057174; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rohan.example.com ([196.215.144.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dw6sm5568044wib.12.2011.11.11.13.47.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:47:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:31 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro Message-ID: <20111111234731.452e9d84@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4EBC1707.5030103@gmail.com> <4EBC1FFD.3040403@gmail.com> <626edce95a8b1dd0834cae8599ab9825.squirrel@www.antarean.org> <201111111921.04929.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6a507e71-9aba-4762-ac4a-084a57198fb9 X-Archives-Hash: 22db8a719dda228100c01c9576fa9f08 On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:14:57 -0500 Michael Mol wrote: > Never used OpenSuse, but I've spent about ten years bouncing between > Ubuntu and Debian. (I started using Ubuntu around either 5.04 or 6.06. > Not sure.) > > While Ubuntu is usually among the first of the binary distros to > support new things, it's been suffering more and more (and more!) > decay when you wander off the beaten path. Over the last couple years, > it's tended toward beating its own path, so knowledge and skills are > becoming less portable if you're bouncing between Ubuntu and other > distros, or even between Ubuntu and Debian. > > It's nice if you want something up and running fast, it's friendly to > newbies, and it's friendly to some kinds of administrators, but it's > *not* friendly to power users. > If my ftp server stats are anything to go by, Linux Mint is the one power users are targeting right now. Number of downloads is a significant % of number of Ubuntu downloads. Myself, I've given Ubuntu a decent 10 week trial. And I'm sick of it already. I'm not even using 11.04, this is 10.10 with classic gnome 2 and I miss Gentoo so much it hurts :-) As soon as my new laptop arrives, Gentoo is going right on it. I'm going to miss this Samsung Series 9 Airbook-knockoff hardware but the software on it will get deep sixed with nary a backward glance... -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com