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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Binary install distro
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:24:40 +0000
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On Friday 11 Nov 2011 22:02:40 Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2011-11-11, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> ><SNIP>
> >
> >> Now to teach him how to update the thing.
> >=20
> > I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
> > Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could.
>=20
> I use Ubuntu occasionally, and it's always a teeth-gritting,
> hair-pulling experience. For me, it's the most non-intuitive distro
> I've ever used. And it is the "Ubuntu" part I can't grok, not the
> Debian part -- I never had any problems with Debian. I ran Debian on
> a server at home for years, and even created a Debian subset distro
> for a product many years back.
>=20
> > It wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but that the management of
> > it seemed so different from any distro I'd run before that I didn't
> > want to deal with learning it.
>=20
> Exactly. Anytime you want to do something administrative, it's always
> an ordeal unless you can just skip the "Ubuntu" stuff and do the
> equivalent of editing /etc/network/interfaces (I never could get the
> GUI network config thingy to work).
>=20
> > Let's see how that does for you.
> >=20
> > Again, remembering I didn't really give it much of a chance - I was
> > running on a Power PC Mac Mini - two things that drove me mad were:
> >=20
> > 1) The basic install didn't tell me what the root password was.
>=20
> There isn't one by default. The first thing you do after an Ubuntu
> install is always set the root password:
>=20
> $ sudo bash
> # passwd
>=20
> The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all
> the kernel messages visible.
>=20
> Then you've got something that's almost tolerable.
How do you that?!!!
Pressing F2 or Esc on the Ubuntu GRUB2 splash just crashes the system. I=20
think I also tried editting the default GRUB2 file, but couldn't get it to =
be=20
more verbose. Is there some trick I'm missing?
=2D-=20
Regards,
Mick
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