[gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[luis jure]

hello boys [1],

i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).

i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate
for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by dedicating some time
to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.


best,

lj





[1] sorry if there are any girls out there, but i think i have never seen
any female names on this list...

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Michael Mol]

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:33 AM, luis jure <ljc@internet.com.uy> wrote:
>
> hello boys [1],
>
> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
>
> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
> death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
> development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
> affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate
> for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by dedicating some time
> to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.
>
> [1] sorry if there are any girls out there, but i think i have never seen
> any female names on this list...

Well, if it helps, the reason I have a huge beard and long hair is
because I idolized Thompson and Ritchie as far back as my early teen
years.

My very conservative grandparents were less than amused that I was
actively seeking a 60s Berkeley look.

-- 
:wq

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi Michael,

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 08:10:13 Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:33 AM, luis jure <ljc@internet.com.uy> wrote:
> > hello boys [1],
> > 
> > i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean
> > that
> > i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
> > 
> > i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
> > death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
> > development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
> > affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow
> > compensate for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by
> > dedicating some time to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.
> > 
> > [1] sorry if there are any girls out there, but i think i have never
> > seen
> > any female names on this list...
> 
> Well, if it helps, the reason I have a huge beard and long hair is

welcome to the club, although my beard isn't huge most of the time :D My wife 
doesn't like it that much. I'm compensating this with the hair on my head 
(close to 1m now *g*)

> because I idolized Thompson and Ritchie as far back as my early teen
> years.
> My very conservative grandparents were less than amused that I was
> actively seeking a 60s Berkeley look.

Sounds familiar too.

Best,
Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Matt Harrison]

On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> 
> hello boys [1],
> 
> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
> 
> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
> death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
> development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
> affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate
> for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by dedicating some time
> to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.

I agree,

I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the folks
here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is very sad on
both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that "Richie might have
helped popularise C, but SJ invented the iPhone...which is 10x more useful".

I swear I'm dealing with a bunch of cretins here :P

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Matt Harrison]

On 15/10/2011 13:26, Matt Harrison wrote:
> On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
>>
>> hello boys [1],
>>
>> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
>> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
>>
>> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
>> death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
>> development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
>> affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate
>> for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by dedicating some time
>> to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.
> 
> I agree,
> 
> I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the folks
> here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is very sad on
> both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that "Richie might have
> helped popularise C, but SJ invented the iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> 
> I swear I'm dealing with a bunch of cretins here :P
> 

I think I might have understated his part in C, sorry. Trying to do too
many things at once :(

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Jonas de Buhr]

Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:26:40 +0100
schrieb Matt Harrison <iwasinnamuknow@genestate.com>:

> On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > 
> > hello boys [1],
> > 
> > i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not
> > mean that i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of
> > them, i admit).
> > 
> > i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the
> > recent death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions
> > to the development of computational technologies were not only
> > paramount, but affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we
> > could somehow compensate for the lack of echo of these news in the
> > media, by dedicating some time to celebrate his memory and express
> > our gratitude.
> 
> I agree,
> 
> I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is
> very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that

> "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented the
> iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> 
> I swear I'm dealing with a bunch of cretins here :P

haha wow. i admire your self-control :P

im sure, by everyone who counts, dennis ritchie will be remembered for
his work. 

[gentoo-user] Re: Dennis Ritchie

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
>>
>> hello boys [1],
>>
>> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
>> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
>>
>> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
>> death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
>> development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
>> affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate
>> for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by dedicating some time
>> to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.
>
> I agree,
>
> I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the folks
> here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is very sad on
> both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that "Richie might have
> helped popularise C, but SJ invented the iPhone...which is 10x more useful".

If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die.  It's not about 
how much you contributed to human society.  It's about how much money 
you made.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dennis Ritchie

[Jonas de Buhr]

Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
schrieb Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>:

> On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> >
> > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is
> > very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that
> > "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented the
> > iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> 
> If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die.  It's not about 
> how much you contributed to human society.  It's about how much money 
> you made.

i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows
who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page. 
average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dennis Ritchie

[meino.cramer]

Jonas de Buhr <jonas.de.buhr@gmx.net> [11-10-15 19:16]:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
> schrieb Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>:
> 
> > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > >
> > > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> > > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is
> > > very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that
> > > "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented the
> > > iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> > 
> > If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die.  It's not about 
> > how much you contributed to human society.  It's about how much money 
> > you made.
> 
> i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows
> who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page. 
> average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C. 
> 

It is, as Dennis Ritchies said:

    "Unix is simple and coherent, but it takes a genius – or at any rate a
    programmer – to understand and appreciate the simplicity."

(Source:"http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Unix-ist-einfach-zum-Tode-von-Dennis-Ritchie-1360366.html)o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dennis Ritchie

[Andrew Tchernoivanov]

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> i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows
> who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page.
> average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C.

Back at my University only very small number of people knows, who's Richie
(although GNU/Linux systems are very popular) and what he had done.

And it's very painful to hear from a person with Apple laptop phrases like
"C? UNIX? I don't like UNIX."

Nothing must be forgotten. People must know persons who made technologies to
what they are now.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:43 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:

> Jonas de Buhr <jonas.de.buhr@gmx.net> [11-10-15 19:16]:
> > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
> > schrieb Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>:
> >
> > > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> > > > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is
> > > > very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that
> > > > "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented the
> > > > iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> > >
> > > If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die.  It's not about
> > > how much you contributed to human society.  It's about how much money
> > > you made.
> >
> > i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows
> > who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page.
> > average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C.
> >
>
> It is, as Dennis Ritchies said:
>
>    "Unix is simple and coherent, but it takes a genius – or at any rate a
>    programmer – to understand and appreciate the simplicity."
>
> (Source:"
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Unix-ist-einfach-zum-Tode-von-Dennis-Ritchie-1360366.html)o
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
С уважением,
Черноиванов Андрей

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dennis Ritchie

[Mick]

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On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 18:43:06 meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> Jonas de Buhr <jonas.de.buhr@gmx.net> [11-10-15 19:16]:
> > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
> > 
> > schrieb Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>:
> > > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> > > > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is
> > > > very sad on both counts, I am getting annoyed by the opinion that
> > > > "Richie might have helped popularise C, but SJ invented the
> > > > iPhone...which is 10x more useful".
> > > 
> > > If you're not insanely rich, nobody cares if you die.  It's not about
> > > how much you contributed to human society.  It's about how much money
> > > you made.
> > 
> > i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows
> > who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page.
> > average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C.
> 
> It is, as Dennis Ritchies said:
> 
>     "Unix is simple and coherent, but it takes a genius – or at any rate a
>     programmer – to understand and appreciate the simplicity."
> 
> (Source:"http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Unix-ist-einfach-zum-Tode-v
> on-Dennis-Ritchie-1360366.html)o

It's in the media, but unlike Jobs it is under Technology, not under 
'celebrities'.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Lorenzo Bandieri]

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>
> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent

death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the

development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but

affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate

for the lack of echo of these news in the media, by dedicating some time

to celebrate his memory and express our gratitude.


I had the same idea, but I didn't resolve to write a thread because I didn't
know if it was appropriate. I'm glad you did it.

For my part, I'm trying to sensitize the people about the life and work of
Dennis Ritchie. Here (in Italy) Steve Jobs' death received much attention on
the media, but the death of Dennis Ritchie passed almost unnoticed. I wrote
a letter on a newspaper to underline how much we owe to Ritchie.

Next week in Italy we'll celebrate Linux Day (http://www.linuxday.it/): in
many italian cities there will be demonstrations of the GNU/Linux OS,
install fests etc. I'll propose to my LUG to include in the schedule some
kind of tribute to Ritchie.

Thanks Ritchie, and goodbye.

Best regards,
Lorenzo

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Alex Schuster]

luis jure writes:

> hello boys [1],
[...]
> [1] sorry if there are any girls out there, but i think i have never seen
> any female names on this list...

I see one :)

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[luis jure]

on 2011-10-16 at 22:03 Alex Schuster wrote:


>> [1] sorry if there are any girls out there, but i think i have never
>> seen any female names on this list...
>
>I see one :)
>

yes, so do i, now, after sending my last message... 

sorry, colleen, i hadn't noticed you before. are you new on the list?

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[Alex Schuster]

luis jure writes:

> on 2011-10-16 at 22:03 Alex Schuster wrote:
> 
>>> [1] sorry if there are any girls out there, but i think i have never
>>> seen any female names on this list...
>>
>> I see one :)
> 
> yes, so do i, now, after sending my last message... 
> 
> sorry, colleen, i hadn't noticed you before. are you new on the list?

You'd be surprised :-)

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Dennis Ritchie

[luis jure]

on 2011-10-16 at 23:54 Alex Schuster wrote:


>luis jure writes:

>> sorry, colleen, i hadn't noticed you before. are you new on the list?
>
>You'd be surprised :-)

oops, i see! sorry again!