From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBpjv-0008RN-6E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:20:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 638EC21C0CC; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6C921C10B for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so3691268vws.40 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:19:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9CbvCZzupqUdmCC0gQE9i2eNyvH9BxtxVPojyCtZOHQ=; b=rKevL2QsKFk+bx/EXE+qApDapIYj9rA9N/PuJLz6QnhfyGwvdDOUiw/0j1aZ8wi2lh hNHpKVldM94UryNF7AQhnri70Vx+QXwObh2cE8V1XzIHmVyEO9a9tFzy15n8TY1/Gkok LKi0P0vhdtwG6+SXL62Sev1LMtRpoB6BhcCtI= Received: by 10.52.186.38 with SMTP id fh6mr861617vdc.243.1317914261101; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rohan.example.com ([196.215.144.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bi11sm5535994vdb.13.2011.10.06.08.17.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:17:31 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Message-ID: <20111006171731.1ba1cec5@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20111006144726.255b4171@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111005162007.GA5820@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20111005184721.01af0bda@toxic.dbnet> <201110060018.50015.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <20111006091237.3c7818e8@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <20111006130111.16f30ccf@rohan.example.com> <20111006144726.255b4171@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 6bdb13b7a062f7ab68b211c47eeb28ec On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Well the only constant is change, right? > > It is now that c is in doubt :) ooooooooooo! wicked pun! Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? > > The trick is to spot the difference between change for the sake of > > change and change that does make sense. This usually means getting > > inside someone's head, which makes life fun. Doubly so if the change > > proposer works in sales.... > > What about marketing, or do you not even attempt it then? Where I work, marketing are forbidden from not only coming up with ideas, but from communicating with techies at all. Our marketing dept is old-fashioned - promote stuff we already have, get the public to think well of the company, dream up a new logo every 5 years. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com