From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBljQ-0001a2-D2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:03:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F3A221C0A1; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AB521C09D for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eye3 with SMTP id 3so570416eye.40 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 04:01:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ww3zYijwgX1vT4+YsM+tDJmlvNIHurmWONetW7PIBxM=; b=FxcJUmhzzNEL9b+EoRxaxUJogNxYUi++w0sPn2nuNOy1Hs+vJStWqFqUKf74qNWY+w yNieqjuwho3rdzzg3frjpimevH66mG2EifKDL5Kq73UbofVvrRRFuFhAWaFtFMPu/E7I sJGNID2gm9fpFJ4764wjYGuKPZ8t8FcV6qSiw= Received: by 10.14.19.14 with SMTP id m14mr108163eem.35.1317898883808; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 04:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rohan.example.com ([196.215.144.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q50sm6210504eef.9.2011.10.06.04.01.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Oct 2011 04:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Message-ID: <20111006130111.16f30ccf@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20111006091237.3c7818e8@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111005162007.GA5820@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20111005184721.01af0bda@toxic.dbnet> <201110060018.50015.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <20111006091237.3c7818e8@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: d5758619efde2eb98c68a36ec5c5f56f On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:12:37 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:18:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was > > continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's > > methods. Stupid, every one. When challenged, they couldn't say how > > their proposed new "solutions" would lead to specified gains by > > anybody, but the changes were forced through anyway. This isn't > > get-up-and-go; it's I've-got-to-make-my- mark. > > > > Pathetic. > > But not comparable. The reasons for the changes in GRUB2 have been > given. > > I may not like how they have implemented everything, splitting the > settings between config files in two separate directories means you > always look in the wrong place first, but I understand the need for > the changes even if I don't need the vast majority of them. > > Problems with upgrading from GRUB1 to GRUB2 are irrelevant. If you > have a working legacy installation, there is absolutely no reason to > change beyond curiosity. Well the only constant is change, right? The trick is to spot the difference between change for the sake of change and change that does make sense. This usually means getting inside someone's head, which makes life fun. Doubly so if the change proposer works in sales.... -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com