From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBBOx-00085u-5T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:15:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8464821C272; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE2921C200 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so1236220wwg.10 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oOy6i1Pfg6t8ejbQUes7HKnQhFS71kEUsmATxIdSI6M=; b=B9MrhRIGZPyRSI7ZW6k7F/NcaNsBqfULDVu/JL+4W6yfVKZe5jvxiTaiHJUn0+e/iO rA8AXxV14+bx/+1a3TcszrhAG6JrrWvK2rjT/fRnbXYBWc/ENC3NxnnfRewAHOhHON8B 5lTTSadhBPcfD7DqJO9kVttbZiN3eDCWciCXw= Received: by 10.227.202.209 with SMTP id ff17mr2004667wbb.92.1317759239770; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rohan.example.com ([196.215.144.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p2sm6453945wbo.17.2011.10.04.13.13.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:13:51 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Message-ID: <20111004221351.30474a04@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <4E8B1DD3.7050709@gmail.com> References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111004110746.395635e0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4E8B1DD3.7050709@gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0c416ce4e871aa09d8e25bf9dcc7080a On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:53:07 -0500 Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2011-10-04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> > >>> Subject line says it pretty well. Is grub2 stable, who uses it > >>> and can you post your experience on the switching process? Was > >>> it difficult? > >> I use it on my netbook, which I admittedly don't boot more than a > >> couple of times a month. It's stable, I can't comment on the > >> switching process as I used GRUB2 from the start with this > >> machine, it seemed a good time to get to grips with it. > >> > >> GRUB2 is neither complicated nor difficult, but it is different. > > I've only used it on Ubuntu, and maybe it's just Ubuntu's > > implementation -- but it was both complicated and difficult. There > > are 10X as many files, and to change anything you edit a whole set > > of configuration files and run a utility that generates _another_ > > set of configuration files. > > > > Compared to "vi /boot/grub/menu.lst; reboot", that's complicated. > > > >> If you try to think in terms of legacy GRUB, you will have more > >> problems than if you approach is as learning a new system. > > At first glace, grub2 looks like a minature Unix installation whose > > purpose is to boot a bigger Unix installation. It's got it's own > > init system and it's own set of init scripts. > > > > Could this fix the mess with /usr and /var having to be on / or a > initramfs? No that's a completely different issue. But the warped thinking that produces it is exactly the same. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com