From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBBLh-0007Um-RP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:12:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6A8121C1D1; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0E521C027 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so1182007wyf.40 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=htt2IJDY7aqtV/F2nLjFLV+mk/Hqbz6dIQMRBvh0/es=; b=V0JXE2j6kNvJKPtKRLQSWo/2gul7mawKLLiR5PJD/16afK0U/KJ1WtwcEC+m3xAa1C VlN8MsWecP/8gjv5eHoRDH+b82SehpbTaEHP0di8dzpQ0Emjzn8BVdTOai2PJVMJ25G9 FURpLBSSXB/XGMldXutzGRlesL6XDHgpsVv/g= Received: by 10.216.183.70 with SMTP id p48mr1848773wem.109.1317759068143; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rohan.example.com ([196.215.144.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fq9sm6432706wbb.15.2011.10.04.13.11.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:11:00 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Message-ID: <20111004221100.5cae3e5e@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111004110746.395635e0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 44d9b7321840919ee1cf234e30504c4f On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 08:08:16 -0700 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > > At first glace, grub2 looks like a minature Unix installation whose > > purpose is to boot a bigger Unix installation. =C2=A0It's got it's own > > init system and it's own set of init scripts. =20 >=20 > That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have > (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart), and it has scripts to *generate* the > config file. >=20 > The thing is that GRUB2 needs to understand several filesystems to > grab the kernel image from. It also wants to be able to use a more > interesting resolution than 640x480. This means that it has to > reimplement all the code for any filesystem, and all the code for > video handling. Personally, I can't agree with this stance from the grub2 devs. It's a bootloader. It is visible for 3 seconds at boot time.=20 For driving the screen it should just use whatever facilities the firmware one layer below it provides. --=20 Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com