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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] hardened-sources reverted to 2.6.39-r8 :(
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:19:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110923011939.744216d7@rohan.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E7BA957.2000306@gentoo.org>

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:32:07 +0200
"Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@gentoo.org> wrote:

> El 22/09/11 22:30, Alan McKinnon escribió:
> > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:09:14 +0200
> > "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@gentoo.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> I wish people wouldn't just remove stuff without full details. If
> >>> there's an issue with that code, there should be a bug at b.g.o.
> >>> and the Changelog should mention it.
> >>>
> >>> Then folks like yourself can read it and make informed decisions.
> >>> As it stands, you have nothing but mystery. Argggg.  
> >> Well deprecated version removal tends to happen because we are not
> >> going to aim for those versions stabilization AND there is a newer
> >> version available AND upstream tends to ignore bugs happening on
> >> older versions.
> >>
> >> What this means for you is that we are not going to force you to
> >> upgrade but if something fails you are in your own ;)
> >>
> >> PS: Next time come by #gentoo-hardened we won't bite you, I
> >> promise ;)
> > My comment wasn't really directed at -hardened specifically. I've
> > just had a belly-full lately of $STUFF being changed at $RANDOM
> > times by arb $PEOPLE, and not specifically Gentoo either.
> >
> > SO I sounded off a bit and let off some steam. Sorry if it came
> > across as directed at your team, that wasn't the intent
> Nothing to be sorry about, you really raised a valid point as is that
> our teams deprecation policies may not be the clearest out there. And
> as a user you deserved an explanation. I'd really hope all the
> projects (and not only in Gentoo) tried to justify their decisions
> when somebody couldn't understand them.
> 
> Anyway even if that wasn't the case, constructive criticism is always
> welcome here :D

My favoured deprecation notification is a deprecation bug in the
bugzilla with the bug # listed in the Changelog.

The plus side is that the record stay in public view for ever and you
no longer have to explain yourself repeatedly, just link to the bug

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



      reply	other threads:[~2011-09-22 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-21  5:15 [gentoo-user] hardened-sources reverted to 2.6.39-r8 :( Pandu Poluan
2011-09-21 12:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-21 12:34   ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-21 13:48     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-21 14:09       ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2011-09-21 16:39         ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-21 19:49           ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
     [not found]             ` <CAA2qdGXZNnsZp_d6kO_CHdyG7GeJUi7qcLxw1EbP6469qWcn+g@mail.gmail.com>
2011-09-22 20:07               ` Manuel McLure
2011-09-22 21:27                 ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2011-09-23 21:47                   ` Manuel McLure
2011-09-22 20:30         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-22 21:32           ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2011-09-22 23:19             ` Alan McKinnon [this message]

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