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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:37:00 +0100
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On Sunday 11 Sep 2011 19:56:48 Dale wrote:
> Paul Colquhoun wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:24:06 PM pk wrote:
> >> On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
> >>> Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse
> >>> it
> >>=20
> >> Yes Dale, you have my permission! And while you're at it, slap him from
> >> me too! ;-)
> >>=20
> >> It _may_ be this guy that's responsible for this crap:
> >> http://linuxplumbersconf.org/ocw/users/58
> >>=20
> >> Also:
> >> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/16994
> >=20
> > I've had a look at the stuff at those links, and some of what they link
> > to in turn, and had a bit of a think about it.
> >=20
> > Looking at "initramfs" as a modern Linux replacement for the "bootable /
> > partition" of traditional Unix systems does make some sense, even though
> > I think it could be made simpler.
> >=20
> > Fot those opposed to initramfs, would you also object to /boot being
> >=20
> > 1) a manditory seperate partition
> > 2) required to be ext2 (or one of a *very* short list)
> > 3) having /boot/{bin,sbin,lib} containing local copies of the absolu=
te
> > =20
> > minimum boot requirements (i.e. initramfs in a real fs)
> >=20
> > On the other hand, most of the problem seems to stem from software
> > packages hooking into the early boot via udev rules, and not beiong
> > careful where they put the executables and libraries that they
> > reference.
> >=20
> > Is udev (as it currently stands) really the best place for them to hook
> > into?
> >=20
> > Could udev be split into 2 passes, early-boot udev that only does system
> > stuff (like mount filesystems out of /etc/fstab, setup keyboards&=20
> > video), and late- boot udev where other applications can put in any
> > hooks they like, since the full system would then be available.
> >=20
> > The late-boot udev may need to do a full rescan of everything that
> > early-boot udev found, but didn't have the rules for yet, but I'm sure
> > that the 2 passes could talk to each other and sort that out fairly
> > simply.
> >=20
> > Or possibly just add a whole new service to use just for hooking softwa=
re
> > packages into system events. Although this would probably end upneeding
> > to be a udev clone anyway.
>=20
> I always have /boot on a separate partition and it is always ext2. So,
> that is done. I also have a 200Mb /boot partition. It sometimes gets
> about half full but I could just clean out old kernels more often. I
> could always make /boot larger too.
It seems that I'm gonna have fun with a 35M /boot soon (and no LVM of cours=
e).
;-)
=2D-=20
Regards,
Mick
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