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From: Keith Dart <keith@dartworks.biz>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: wonko@wonkology.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:40:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110910164007.40ed14ff@dartworks.biz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110911005107.15fa647a@weird.wonkology.org>

=== On Sun, 09/11, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
> Interesting. What are the advantages?

Mainly that it's simpler, as a bootloader should be. However it does
have some nice features, such as making nice looking, interactive
menus. You can also edit the config file by hand, if you need to, and
it's all contained on the boot partition.

The biggest problem with grub 2 is it adds a dependency on having your
main root partition already mounted in order to configure it. That may
not be available. Also, when you learn extlinux then you know syslinux,
isolinux, and pxelinux already which helps when configuring boot
loaders for those other media. 

> What I like most about Grub is the interactive shell. And that I don't
> have to run a command like I had to do with Lilo after installing a
> new kernel.

If you need a shell, boot a minimal kernel and shell from a ramdisk. No
good reason to bloat a bootloader with that. 


-- Keith Dart

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-10 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18 18:59 [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot frares
2011-08-18 19:08 ` András Csányi
2011-08-19 12:42   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-08-19 19:38     ` Francesco Talamona
2011-08-18 19:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
2011-08-19  5:33   ` Graham Murray
2011-08-19  1:44 ` Matthew Finkel
2011-08-19  2:27 ` Mark Knecht
2011-08-19 10:09   ` Mick
2011-08-19 13:12     ` frares
2011-08-19 13:41       ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-19 22:08         ` Dale
2011-08-20  7:04           ` Mick
2011-08-20  7:17             ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:29               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20  8:48                 ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:57                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20 12:55                     ` Mick
2011-09-06 23:06                     ` Dale
2011-09-07  5:09                       ` William Hubbs
2011-09-07  5:24                         ` Dale
2011-09-07 17:23                           ` Dan Johansson
2011-09-07 17:52                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 18:09                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 18:28                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:07                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:10                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:19                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-07 19:24                                       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:27                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 22:54                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-07 23:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 23:39                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08  3:23                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 10:11                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 15:32                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:24                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:37                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:03                                               ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:55                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  2:55                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-09 15:29                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  9:10                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 17:30                                       ` pk
2011-09-08 18:40                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:04                                           ` pk
2011-09-07 23:55                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08  3:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  3:39                                       ` Dale
2011-09-08 14:51                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:15                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 15:40                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:58                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 16:11                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:45                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:11                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:22                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:05                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:23                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:43                                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:48                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:04                                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:11                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:36                                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:23                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:34                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09 11:35                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:29                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 21:44                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:06                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-09  8:06                                                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-09 10:03                                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-12  9:18                                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 16:50                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:31                                                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 23:05                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:04                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:40                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:56                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:06                                                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:38                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:28                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 23:01                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 17:35                                           ` pk
2011-09-08 17:47                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 18:11                                               ` pk
2011-09-08 19:01                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:40                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  9:39                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 18:41                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:18                                               ` pk
2011-09-08  7:59                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 15:08                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  7:37                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  8:17                                       ` Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  1:37                                 ` [gentoo-user] " David W Noon
2011-09-08  2:49                                   ` Dale
2011-09-08  3:33                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  8:09                                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 15:13                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 16:06                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:34                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:01                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:18                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:45                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 19:00                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:37                                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 20:03                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:57                                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  8:11                                                         ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-09  8:53                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-09  9:15                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  1:25                                                               ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:32                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:58                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:30                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:54                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:00                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 14:59                                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:34                                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 21:15                                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:35                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  9:37                                                                                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-12  8:41                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:37                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:55                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:35                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-10 17:33                                                                         ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:12                                                                           ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:21                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:12                                                                         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 12:14                                                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-12 12:28                                                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 14:47                                                                               ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-12 15:29                                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 15:44                                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 16:56                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:16                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:56                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:17                                                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  7:49                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-09 11:35                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:46                                                               ` Mick
2011-09-09 16:44                                                               ` pk
2011-09-09 17:04                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:09                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:10                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:01                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:56                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:02                                                               ` Keith Dart
2011-09-10 22:51                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 23:40                                                                   ` Keith Dart [this message]
2011-09-11 11:59                                                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:24                                                             ` pk
2011-09-09 17:53                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-10  1:15                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:23                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:49                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:17                                                                       ` pk
2011-09-10  7:36                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 10:24                                                                       ` Mick
2011-09-10 16:09                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-10 16:19                                                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:36                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:50                                                                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:47                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11  8:22                                                                               ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-11  8:54                                                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-11  9:51                                                                           ` pk
2011-09-10 10:43                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  3:16                                                               ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-11  7:29                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11 12:26                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11 18:56                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-11 19:37                                                                   ` Mick
2011-09-11 21:07                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-11 21:46                                                                       ` David W Noon
2011-09-11 22:08                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-12  1:44                                                                         ` James Wall
2011-09-12  8:12                                                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 19:07                                                                           ` David W Noon
2011-09-12  7:45                                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  8:32                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:49                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  9:13                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:34                                                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 10:57                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14  5:01                                                         ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-08 19:48                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:21                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:38                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:46                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:25                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 16:44                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 16:56                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 18:05                                         ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 19:13                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:25                                             ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:42                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 22:33                                                 ` Mick
2011-09-08 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:00                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:26                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  6:22                                                         ` Mick
2011-09-09  7:35                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:51                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:45                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:32                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 11:41                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:44                                     ` Dale
2011-09-09 14:02                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10  1:20                                         ` Dale
2011-09-09 18:16                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 19:57                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-08-20 12:53                   ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-20 12:59                   ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 13:29                     ` Mick
2011-08-20 13:58                       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-08-20 15:32                         ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 14:22                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 13:48       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 15:06         ` frares
2011-08-19 15:20           ` Alan McKinnon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-18 19:17 frares
2011-08-18 19:26 ` frares
2011-08-18 19:42   ` Michael Mol
2011-08-18 23:29     ` Peter Humphrey

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