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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:48:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110908214836.014d6adc@rohan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc83jOLeEXT6nRDLnUBf2xwXwFXKP1TdTe_LvEYrvyLk6Rg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:13:58 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Have you *ever* thought about machines, that are not x86 or x86_64?
> > Here's an intersting read:
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/72769  
> 
> No, I haven't thought about them, because I don't use them. What it
> has to do with anything?

Linux runs on many many many more arches than just x86 and amd64. IIRC
it's about 29 in total.

Do you agree that the needs and requirements of all those other arches
might be important to everything else?

You keep mentioning "it will all work if you just use an initramfs".
Did it occur to you that that statement is the entire problem and
demonstrates the problem nicely? I do not have an initramfs, do not
need one, see no need to have one and have not yet seen a valid
technical reason for why having one is ideal. My gentoo systems do not
run binary distros, I have no need for a generic mechanism designed to
cope with any hardware Fedora might happen to find itself booting on,
hardware that the devs have no idea of when they compile their distros.
I, on the other hand, already know everything I need to know about my
hardware for the purposes of booting, running udev and building a valid
kernel that fits my needs.

Tell me again what it is that validly requires me to switch to some new
way of doing things?

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-08 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18 18:59 [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot frares
2011-08-18 19:08 ` András Csányi
2011-08-19 12:42   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-08-19 19:38     ` Francesco Talamona
2011-08-18 19:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
2011-08-19  5:33   ` Graham Murray
2011-08-19  1:44 ` Matthew Finkel
2011-08-19  2:27 ` Mark Knecht
2011-08-19 10:09   ` Mick
2011-08-19 13:12     ` frares
2011-08-19 13:41       ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-19 22:08         ` Dale
2011-08-20  7:04           ` Mick
2011-08-20  7:17             ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:29               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20  8:48                 ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:57                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20 12:55                     ` Mick
2011-09-06 23:06                     ` Dale
2011-09-07  5:09                       ` William Hubbs
2011-09-07  5:24                         ` Dale
2011-09-07 17:23                           ` Dan Johansson
2011-09-07 17:52                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 18:09                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 18:28                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:07                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:10                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:19                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-07 19:24                                       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:27                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 22:54                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-07 23:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 23:39                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08  3:23                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 10:11                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 15:32                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:24                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:37                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:03                                               ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:55                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  2:55                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-09 15:29                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  9:10                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 17:30                                       ` pk
2011-09-08 18:40                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:04                                           ` pk
2011-09-07 23:55                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08  3:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  3:39                                       ` Dale
2011-09-08 14:51                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:15                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 15:40                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:58                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 16:11                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:45                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:11                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:22                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:05                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:23                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:43                                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:48                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:04                                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:11                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:36                                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:23                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:34                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09 11:35                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:29                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 21:44                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:06                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-09  8:06                                                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-09 10:03                                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-12  9:18                                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 16:50                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:31                                                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 23:05                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:04                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:40                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:56                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:06                                                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:38                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:28                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 23:01                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 17:35                                           ` pk
2011-09-08 17:47                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 18:11                                               ` pk
2011-09-08 19:01                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:40                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  9:39                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 18:41                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:18                                               ` pk
2011-09-08  7:59                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 15:08                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  7:37                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  8:17                                       ` Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  1:37                                 ` [gentoo-user] " David W Noon
2011-09-08  2:49                                   ` Dale
2011-09-08  3:33                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  8:09                                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 15:13                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 16:06                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:34                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:01                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:18                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:45                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 19:00                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:37                                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 20:03                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:57                                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  8:11                                                         ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-09  8:53                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-09  9:15                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  1:25                                                               ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:32                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:58                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:30                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:54                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:00                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 14:59                                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:34                                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 21:15                                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:35                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  9:37                                                                                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-12  8:41                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:37                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:55                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:35                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-10 17:33                                                                         ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:12                                                                           ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:21                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:12                                                                         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 12:14                                                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-12 12:28                                                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 14:47                                                                               ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-12 15:29                                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 15:44                                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 16:56                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:16                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:56                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:17                                                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  7:49                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-09 11:35                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:46                                                               ` Mick
2011-09-09 16:44                                                               ` pk
2011-09-09 17:04                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:09                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:10                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:01                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:56                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:02                                                               ` Keith Dart
2011-09-10 22:51                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 23:40                                                                   ` Keith Dart
2011-09-11 11:59                                                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:24                                                             ` pk
2011-09-09 17:53                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-10  1:15                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:23                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:49                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:17                                                                       ` pk
2011-09-10  7:36                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 10:24                                                                       ` Mick
2011-09-10 16:09                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-10 16:19                                                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:36                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:50                                                                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:47                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11  8:22                                                                               ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-11  8:54                                                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-11  9:51                                                                           ` pk
2011-09-10 10:43                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  3:16                                                               ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-11  7:29                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11 12:26                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11 18:56                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-11 19:37                                                                   ` Mick
2011-09-11 21:07                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-11 21:46                                                                       ` David W Noon
2011-09-11 22:08                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-12  1:44                                                                         ` James Wall
2011-09-12  8:12                                                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 19:07                                                                           ` David W Noon
2011-09-12  7:45                                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  8:32                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:49                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  9:13                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:34                                                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 10:57                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14  5:01                                                         ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-08 19:48                                         ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2011-09-08 20:21                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:38                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:46                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:25                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 16:44                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 16:56                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 18:05                                         ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 19:13                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:25                                             ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:42                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 22:33                                                 ` Mick
2011-09-08 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:00                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:26                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  6:22                                                         ` Mick
2011-09-09  7:35                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:51                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:45                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:32                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 11:41                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:44                                     ` Dale
2011-09-09 14:02                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10  1:20                                         ` Dale
2011-09-09 18:16                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 19:57                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-08-20 12:53                   ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-20 12:59                   ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 13:29                     ` Mick
2011-08-20 13:58                       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-08-20 15:32                         ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 14:22                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 13:48       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 15:06         ` frares
2011-08-19 15:20           ` Alan McKinnon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-18 19:17 frares
2011-08-18 19:26 ` frares
2011-08-18 19:42   ` Michael Mol
2011-08-18 23:29     ` Peter Humphrey

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