From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R1ZXg-0002Pu-7h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2011 08:01:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 226BA21C31E; Thu, 8 Sep 2011 08:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C429E092D for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zaphod.digimed.co.uk (zaphod.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.1]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 857CF804FD for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2011 08:59:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 08:59:46 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot Message-ID: <20110908085946.5b6fc9ce@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20110907050952.GA2588@linux1> <4E66FFFA.2020600@gmail.com> <201109071923.39954.Dan.Johansson@dmj.nu> <20110907235457.691be720@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <20110908005500.58ef10fa@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10cvs16 (GTK+ 2.24.5; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/STbVY2/C+mWNdH3L5/XLaac"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 8a65259115befa4b5b9b354f9d5135ef --Sig_/STbVY2/C+mWNdH3L5/XLaac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:30:16 -0400, Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > > Because you can't boot from an LV, so you'd than need a separate /boot > > and an initramfs. Without LVM, you are unlikely to be able to resize / > > or /usr as it is not usually the last partition on the drive. >=20 > So, you guys want a separated /usr, but don't want a separate /boot. > Awesome. I want as much as possible on LVM, and no initramfs. A small / and everything else on LVM fulfils that need. > >> Again, I don't see the reason for a separated /usr. > > > > That doesn't mean there aren't several valid reasons to do so. >=20 > I didn't say they were invalid, I say that *I* don't see the reason to > separate /usr. The arguments exposed just don't convice me. But > anyway, you will be able to do it with an initramfs. No one is saying YOU should change your preferred setup. Please do us the same courtesy. Accept that we may have thought quite hard about what we want, what we need and how best to achieve it. How would you feel if you were told that you had to separate /usr, install extra packages, go through extra configuration steps and introduce more points of failure, just to do what you are already doing? > Then don't update. I can't decide whether this comment is arrogant or ingenuous. --=20 Neil Bothwick Today's subliminal message is: . --Sig_/STbVY2/C+mWNdH3L5/XLaac Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk5odfcACgkQum4al0N1GQOD5gCg0uRoTwKHZeNfIvbisPh16PA0 rkEAoKp49jGe35a7DPCIut7ssw+58Ny/ =z+41 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/STbVY2/C+mWNdH3L5/XLaac--