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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
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On Friday 02 Sep 2011 00:27:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:32:11 -0400
>=20
> Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Happily, there was a nice pretty lady from Samsung in the office 3
> > > months ago wanting to sell the 900X Macbook Air knock-off into the
> > > company. The IT manager didn't know what to do with the demo she
> > > left behind so I knicked it for myself (sans paperwork of course.
> > > Makes it easier to prolong how long it takes to test properly) and
> > > it's running Ubuntu. Memory issues are a thing of the past and
> > > everything behaves just like it should. Even <gasp> flash.
> >=20
> > That saddens me a little. Of all the friends and coworkers I have, I'm
> > the only one left using Gentoo. All of them switched to Fedora, or
> > Ubuntu, or OpenSuSE.
>=20
> I completely understand how you feel. But, I'm enjoying this break from
> Gentoo. Note I said "break", not "leave behind".
>=20
> It will take 3 to 6 weeks for me to make up my mind what monster Dell I
> want next, assault Purchasing to make them approve it then have it
> built in Ireland and shipped to ZA.
I must have words with Dell!!!
Mine was built in China and shipped from China ... twice, because the=20
horrendous courier they use did not deliver it.
> That's about enough time I think to run into the Ubuntu "you will do it
> our way with the deps we want you to have" philosophy enough times to
> drive me back to gentoo.=20
I have a laptop which is only used occasionally and (K)Ubuntu is a good use=
=20
case for it. Keeping it up to date does not take long with more or less=20
vanilla Kubuntu settings and because the user needs are not particularly=20
demanding Ubuntu has filled the OS role admirably. Doing this with Gentoo=
=20
would require much more attention and time from me. However, I would not u=
se=20
Ubuntu for my needs. Very much like Alan says, there is an annoying=20
underlying feeling of "all your OS belongs to us".
> But the next machine will not have KDE on it -
> all this RAM nonsense started by trying to get Akonadi to work, for very
> loose definitions of "work", such as "show me my mail sometime today"
>=20
> e17 beckons.
Let us know which mail client you end up with. Although I now use e17 and=
=20
before that I used a rather edited Fluxbox (I avoid bloatware DEs if I can=
=20
help it) I am still using kmail because attempts to adopt other mail client=
s=20
ended up in disappointment.
=2D-=20
Regards,
Mick
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