From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QzVW5-0005dm-Aa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:18:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CA5421C0B2; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118B921C049 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so3036136wyg.40 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=sVGCu83Va8KsyX0gvxjPI3WpwgcJTBBQON9DwMJtFPg=; b=UKRhFGyA2FYnwIzsB1796tU7iufA9xuA6HV3zBJgpuRAzbe0lzVCswv5+6jgIIbkQ8 MPTzMq4O3TAR9Pac1xSoHUr7Xq84YJYGBj182kH8uYmD73VC67qpoW5nYW5qLZMyjpEX 6do1baFgG8ztXn6Byn/F+25g9cEvISK8xmy1A= Received: by 10.227.154.77 with SMTP id n13mr1215785wbw.2.1314976667132; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet ([213.123.142.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p13sm2004959wbh.13.2011.09.02.08.17.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:33:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r3; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <20110902012758.15d266b7@rohan> In-Reply-To: <20110902012758.15d266b7@rohan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4770817.AfBloIPjqU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109020834.12421.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 42654f21ced8d04b0d99eea55fe9ee38 --nextPart4770817.AfBloIPjqU Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 02 Sep 2011 00:27:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:32:11 -0400 >=20 > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > > > Happily, there was a nice pretty lady from Samsung in the office 3 > > > months ago wanting to sell the 900X Macbook Air knock-off into the > > > company. The IT manager didn't know what to do with the demo she > > > left behind so I knicked it for myself (sans paperwork of course. > > > Makes it easier to prolong how long it takes to test properly) and > > > it's running Ubuntu. Memory issues are a thing of the past and > > > everything behaves just like it should. Even flash. > >=20 > > That saddens me a little. Of all the friends and coworkers I have, I'm > > the only one left using Gentoo. All of them switched to Fedora, or > > Ubuntu, or OpenSuSE. >=20 > I completely understand how you feel. But, I'm enjoying this break from > Gentoo. Note I said "break", not "leave behind". >=20 > It will take 3 to 6 weeks for me to make up my mind what monster Dell I > want next, assault Purchasing to make them approve it then have it > built in Ireland and shipped to ZA. I must have words with Dell!!! Mine was built in China and shipped from China ... twice, because the=20 horrendous courier they use did not deliver it. > That's about enough time I think to run into the Ubuntu "you will do it > our way with the deps we want you to have" philosophy enough times to > drive me back to gentoo.=20 I have a laptop which is only used occasionally and (K)Ubuntu is a good use= =20 case for it. Keeping it up to date does not take long with more or less=20 vanilla Kubuntu settings and because the user needs are not particularly=20 demanding Ubuntu has filled the OS role admirably. Doing this with Gentoo= =20 would require much more attention and time from me. However, I would not u= se=20 Ubuntu for my needs. Very much like Alan says, there is an annoying=20 underlying feeling of "all your OS belongs to us". > But the next machine will not have KDE on it - > all this RAM nonsense started by trying to get Akonadi to work, for very > loose definitions of "work", such as "show me my mail sometime today" >=20 > e17 beckons. Let us know which mail client you end up with. Although I now use e17 and= =20 before that I used a rather edited Fluxbox (I avoid bloatware DEs if I can= =20 help it) I am still using kmail because attempts to adopt other mail client= s=20 ended up in disappointment. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart4770817.AfBloIPjqU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk5ghvQACgkQVTDTR3kpaLYsPQCg619cD58pgJj9kObdD3RcKnal CTEAoPbqUgtoeR2+iZBZvJ1NF6Eyy48/ =lAGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4770817.AfBloIPjqU--