From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-127144-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QuldA-00089m-A3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:30:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9B8A21C24E; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C99A21C25A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so3572384wyg.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:28:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=rsw35LxaAXu3BBs59mibdHk1nAikT5TPBPEJc0l2PFU=; b=gfIP+JiR2K9x3zQ4WUjiQIYxicpkW68Hld4PhnX9CcixuNG7p407M9cnxJ3q9hPdJY OFIL0bhAiVD4CnBt2UiKySt7fvJyPozu/L9taeRCi5UeSsplNJ4NnnbM0XPChd4egCs/ 4ifXCtWzfJWqEQE0SDNWuSVRsMcM+ycAggL0c= Received: by 10.216.188.207 with SMTP id a57mr382922wen.94.1313846913295; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i51sm2770639wed.43.2011.08.20.06.28.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:29:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r3; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4E4F74D2.3090809@gmail.com> <20110820135942.23794f5d@memphis.local> In-Reply-To: <20110820135942.23794f5d@memphis.local> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2112117.P5CLCUMaZ8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201108201429.17095.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: abd0004c7b080e7230cf8be754edf1dd --nextPart2112117.P5CLCUMaZ8 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday 20 Aug 2011 13:59:42 David W Noon wrote: > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:48:18 -0500, Dale wrote about "Re: > [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot": >=20 > [snip] >=20 > >I wish you could convince the devs of that. I already have /var on > >its own and was planning to put /usr on its own. I'm not now tho. > >Looks like /, /boot, /home and that's it for the OS part. It > >downright sucks. >=20 > I have also been following the discussion on gentoo-dev, although I > currently only lurk there. I was going to register and post with a > suggestion that everything should be on the root partition; that way we > could rename it C: and be compliant with the "industry standard". >=20 > However, it gets worse: one cannot safely fsck a partition or logical > volume once it has been mounted. As things currently stand, there are > no statically linked fsck modules for ext2/3/4, as static linkage was > dropped from e2fsprogs about 3 years ago. This means for fsck to run > inside an initramfs or intrd, the image will have to contain glibc, > libpthread and a whole slew of other large libraries in order to run > e2fsck with dynamic linkage. The initramfs will end up being *many* > times larger than the kernel itself. [On my systems, the vmlinuz file > is only about 1.8 megs, and glibc alone makes that look really puny.] >=20 > Welcome to progress. This is madness. Is there anything we can do to stop it? =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2112117.P5CLCUMaZ8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk5Ptq0ACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZjLgCgkvQ8nDdO2+FBGAAWYhBKoHdn YtEAnRH6yIkO3RQiaAI3ssh1shhKPwxl =pYhx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2112117.P5CLCUMaZ8--