[gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello List,

I'm sure I saw a thread recently describing progress in understanding and 
using grub-2, but now I can't find it. I have six months of articles here 
too, and I've searched gmane and the gentoo archive. Perhaps I'm being 
dense, or maybe it was on another list.

I want to try another distro on an oldish box, but its gentoo grub can't 
chain to the grub-2 on another boot partition - it reports an invalid 
executable format, or something like that.

Looks like time to bone up on grub-2 as it's the Coming Thing.

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[J. Roeleveld]

On Mon, August 15, 2011 11:52 am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I'm sure I saw a thread recently describing progress in understanding and
> using grub-2, but now I can't find it. I have six months of articles here
> too, and I've searched gmane and the gentoo archive. Perhaps I'm being
> dense, or maybe it was on another list.
>
> I want to try another distro on an oldish box, but its gentoo grub can't
> chain to the grub-2 on another boot partition - it reports an invalid
> executable format, or something like that.
>
> Looks like time to bone up on grub-2 as it's the Coming Thing.

6 months might not be enough, there was a thread called "[gentoo-user] A
tiny titillating taste of grub2" and dates back to 9 January 2011.

There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots
like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
looking for.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote:

> There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots
> like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
> looking for.

That looks like the one. Thanks Joost.

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[J. Roeleveld]

On Mon, August 15, 2011 3:06 pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>> There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for
>> idiots
>> like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
>> looking for.
>
> That looks like the one. Thanks Joost.

You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Mon, August 15, 2011 3:06 pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>    
>> On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for
>>> idiots
>>> like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
>>> looking for.
>>>        
>> That looks like the one. Thanks Joost.
>>      
> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>
>    

Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be 
more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could be 
wrong.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> 
> Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
> more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could be
> wrong.  :/

I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as 
not to be caught out this way again.

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> > 
> > Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
> > more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could be
> > wrong.  :/
> 
> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
> not to be caught out this way again.

Where do you set that?

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Dale]

Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>    
>> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
>>      
>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>        
>>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>>>>          
>>> Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
>>> more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could be
>>> wrong.  :/
>>>        
>> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
>> not to be caught out this way again.
>>      
> Where do you set that?
>
> --
> Joost
>
>    

Depends on what email program you use.  I use Seamonkey for mine but a 
friend showed me mutt the other day.  I need to ask him if I can be 
nosey and look at it closer to see how it works.  I was several feet 
away at the time.  It was threaded tho.  I love my threading feature.  ;-)

If you use Seamonkey, right click on the folder that the emails go to.  
Select properties and then the retention tab in the pop up.  Just click 
on the correct stuff and set it to how many days you want it kept.  Some 
other programs may have something similar tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:28:53 AM Dale wrote:
> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> >>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> >>> 
> >>> Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should
> >>> be
> >>> more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could
> >>> be
> >>> wrong.  :/
> >> 
> >> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days
> >> so as not to be caught out this way again.
> > 
> > Where do you set that?
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> Depends on what email program you use.  I use Seamonkey for mine but a
> friend showed me mutt the other day.  I need to ask him if I can be
> nosey and look at it closer to see how it works.  I was several feet
> away at the time.  It was threaded tho.  I love my threading feature.  ;-)
> 
> If you use Seamonkey, right click on the folder that the emails go to.
> Select properties and then the retention tab in the pop up.  Just click
> on the correct stuff and set it to how many days you want it kept.  Some
> other programs may have something similar tho.

I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly ever 
delete anything. :)
Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either duplicated 
or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Dale]

Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:28:53 AM Dale wrote:
>    
>> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>>      
>>> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>>>>>>              
>>>>> Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should
>>>>> be
>>>>> more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could
>>>>> be
>>>>> wrong.  :/
>>>>>            
>>>> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days
>>>> so as not to be caught out this way again.
>>>>          
>>> Where do you set that?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>>        
>> Depends on what email program you use.  I use Seamonkey for mine but a
>> friend showed me mutt the other day.  I need to ask him if I can be
>> nosey and look at it closer to see how it works.  I was several feet
>> away at the time.  It was threaded tho.  I love my threading feature.  ;-)
>>
>> If you use Seamonkey, right click on the folder that the emails go to.
>> Select properties and then the retention tab in the pop up.  Just click
>> on the correct stuff and set it to how many days you want it kept.  Some
>> other programs may have something similar tho.
>>      
> I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly ever
> delete anything. :)
> Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either duplicated
> or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
>
> --
> Joost
>
>    

I used to use Kmail.  There is a way to set it to delete things but I 
thought it was set to retain everything until set to delete.  Basically, 
the default is to keep it all until told otherwise.  Maybe IMAP is 
handled differently tho since it is set up on the server end.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 04:01:03 AM Dale wrote:
> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly
> > ever delete anything. :)
> > Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either
> > duplicated or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
> > 
> > --
> > Joost
> 
> I used to use Kmail.  There is a way to set it to delete things but I
> thought it was set to retain everything until set to delete.  Basically,
> the default is to keep it all until told otherwise.  Maybe IMAP is
> handled differently tho since it is set up on the server end.

Probably, I don't like "auto-deletion" tools. They always tend to delete what 
I want to keep.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Dale]

Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 04:01:03 AM Dale wrote:
>    
>> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>>      
>>> I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly
>>> ever delete anything. :)
>>> Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either
>>> duplicated or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>>        
>> I used to use Kmail.  There is a way to set it to delete things but I
>> thought it was set to retain everything until set to delete.  Basically,
>> the default is to keep it all until told otherwise.  Maybe IMAP is
>> handled differently tho since it is set up on the server end.
>>      
> Probably, I don't like "auto-deletion" tools. They always tend to delete what
> I want to keep.
>
> --
> Joost
>
>    

I thought that was me doing that.  O_O

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 07:57:37 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> > > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> > > 
> > > Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should
> > > be more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I
> > > could be wrong.  :/
> > 
> > I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days
> > so as not to be caught out this way again.
> 
> Where do you set that?

In kmail, right-click on the folder and choose Expire. Set the number of 
days to keep. Nothing fancier than that, in case you were hoping for 
something clever.  :-(

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 06:05:23 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 August 2011 07:57:37 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> > > > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> > > > 
> > > > Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year
> > > > should
> > > > be more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I
> > > > could be wrong.  :/
> > > 
> > > I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365
> > > days
> > > so as not to be caught out this way again.
> > 
> > Where do you set that?
> 
> In kmail, right-click on the folder and choose Expire. Set the number of
> days to keep. Nothing fancier than that, in case you were hoping for
> something clever.  :-(

Thanks, I wanted to know where it's configured to ensure it's switched off :)
Fortunately, it defaults to off.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2

[kashani]

On 8/15/2011 11:57 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>>>
>>> Mine goes back a year.  Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
>>> more than plenty.  Maybe I need to rethink that a little.  I could be
>>> wrong.  :/
>>
>> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
>> not to be caught out this way again.
>
> Where do you set that?
>
> --
> Joost
>

Thunderbird will let you set a number of days to keep per folder. I deal 
with all my lists that way. 180 days for gentoo and down to 30 days for 
Mythtv. All the archives are searchable so no point in duplicating the 
data locally.

kashani