From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QrT5p-0004WB-Mh for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:06:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5F8521C387; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8029721C0E9 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Aug 2011 11:04:12 -0000 Received: from p548507A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO gmx.net) [84.133.7.162] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 11 Aug 2011 13:04:12 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20088476 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/kq85K+/nkJ2FeGcHKSPInyLXVJaE93X4Al9vv+N c+pLN144b9wfpP Received: by gmx.net (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 Meino.Cramer@gmx.de; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:04:13 +0200 From: meino.cramer@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Zynaddsubfx connected to Rosegarden WITHOUT Jack? Message-ID: <20110811110413.GF22501@solfire> References: <20110809191342.GC6003@solfire> <3960878.U1fKRosroJ@pc> <20110811091321.GE22501@solfire> <16839968.2UE5nfVbuL@pc> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16839968.2UE5nfVbuL@pc> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: aa7d50d0ce18f91f2d6b39f21edc6eb2 Hi Michael, Thank you for your help ! :) Here are the versions: media-sound/rosegarden 11.02 media-sound/zynaddsubfx 2.4.1 media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit 0.118.0 I did a aconnect -lio, which says: client 0: 'System' [type=kernel] 0 'Timer ' 1 'Announce ' Connecting To: 15:0, 128:0 client 14: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel] 0 'Midi Through Port-0' client 28: 'Virtual Raw MIDI 3-0' [type=kernel] 0 'VirMIDI 3-0 ' Connecting To: 128:0 Connected From: 128:3 client 29: 'Virtual Raw MIDI 3-1' [type=kernel] 0 'VirMIDI 3-1 ' client 30: 'Virtual Raw MIDI 3-2' [type=kernel] 0 'VirMIDI 3-2 ' client 31: 'Virtual Raw MIDI 3-3' [type=kernel] 0 'VirMIDI 3-3 ' client 128: 'rosegarden' [type=user] 0 'record in ' Connected From: 0:1, 28:0 1 'sync out ' 2 'external controller' 3 'out 1 - General MIDI Device' Connecting To: 28:0 Then I started rosegarden, which - as expereinced before - pops up a dialog, saying: The JACK Audio subsystem has stopped Rosegarden from processing audio, probably because of a processing overload. An attempt to restart the audio service has been made, but some problems may remain. Quitting other running applications may improve Rosegarden's performance. (no jackd was running) When clicking [OK] the dialog disappears only to take a very very short rest an return again and again and again.... In one of these short tiemes of peace and slumber I open the preference dialog and switched off jackd transport, quit rosegarden and start it again only to play another fresh match between me and this damned dialog... ;-/ How can I prevent to scratch my skin by the roses of this garden over and over again.....? Best regards, mcc Michael Schreckenbauer [11-08-11 12:12]: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, 11. August 2011, 11:13:21 schrieb meino.cramer@gmx.de: > > Hi Michael, > > I had * experiments with jack and nothing works... > > Sometimes there was no connection at all, sometimes after a > > short time rosegarden crashes and/or reports taht the connection > > has gone, and so on.... > > this is strange. It simply works for me (tm). > > > May be I has simply combined the wrong things... > > What versions did you try? (jackd, rosegarden...) > > > I have no midi hardware in the sense of keyboards, external > > synths and such. > > I see. > > > What I want is to set up a melody in rosegarden and to play > > it via Zynaddsubfx. > > That's what I was thinking :) > > > A midi step sequencer (not sure if this this correct terminus > > technicus, though) were also fine... > > Any ideas? > > I think, aconnect (part of media-sound/alsa-utils) is the tool you want to > try. > Start both rosegarden and zynaddsubfx, then use aconnect -lio to see, what in- > and out-ports were created on your system. After that use aconnect to connect > the rosegarden out-port with the zynaddsubfx in-port. > http://alsa.opensrc.org/Aconnect has some details. > I never tried this for myself, so I have no practical experience with it. > > > best regards, > > mcc > > Hth, > Michael > > > If this will become too OT simply use my PM :) > > > > Michael Schreckenbauer [11-08-11 10:52]: > > > Hi Meino, > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 11. August 2011, 03:02:33 schrieb meino.cramer@gmx.de: > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > thank you for your info ! :) > > > > What do I need for a midi connection (sorry, I am > > > > at the very beginning of exploring these kind of > > > > tools and jack is everywhere... ;) ) > > > > > > do you have midi-ports in your soundcard? In some cases they are > > > implemented as 5-pol Din plugs (MIDI-standard plugs), in other cases > > > they are implemented via the gameport. Most built-in soundhardware has > > > none. > > > If you have those ports, the most simple (but not best) solution is to > > > connect midi in with midi out, have rosegarden play through midi out > > > and the synth listen to midi in. > > > Afaik(!) alsa has virtual midi-ports, you can use, if you have no hw > > > ports (and which would be more elegant to use), but I have no > > > experience with them. May I ask, why you don't want to use jack? I use > > > it for everything in my studio and I am very happy with it. There's a > > > reason jack is everywhere in this area :) > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > mcc > > > > > > Hth, > > > Michael > > > > > > > Michael Schreckenbauer [11-08-11 02:45]: > > > > > Hi Meino, > > > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 21:13:42 schrieb meino.cramer@gmx.de: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > may be this is a RDQ(tm) (real dumb question), but.... > > > > > > Is it possible to connect rosegarden and ZynAddSubFX > > > > > > without using jack ??? > > > > > > > > > > you could use a MIDI connection. But imho jack is the way to go > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for any help in advance! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > Hth, > > > > > Michael >