From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-125126-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QdlbM-0001DN-2i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:02:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B223621C038; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6805221C038 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so4578206wwf.10 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:00:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=AmTBHDBVLb1D8MKSO+xEtXPBaHwlZkg7rbFc7MpMGlY=; b=gvDJismFGatIOePOMoBK6KEGjrPvIhejMeTjMkEQ98yRTbMorOEQ16l2fR9qyVB0ns F/Qs8oqk1qXpeFPiHD2/mTiiq1xGAdRlQiq9z1UVTzEMdKAPlayepPF8PmG7CONqBuB6 u0h/WX514NWIMLGdPxJBJJMApp2nu/J4kSDkU= Received: by 10.216.221.6 with SMTP id q6mr5556850wep.12.1309795252531; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet ([213.123.142.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k49sm3153377weq.7.2011.07.04.09.00.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:00:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD. Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:00:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo-r6; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110703103114.GA2739@acm.acm> <20110704141504.0dd2f1de@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <CAOTuDKrR955VCh4+qF=ksKEwpddfa1=DyGU7wP4617bTy0St-Q@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAOTuDKrR955VCh4+qF=ksKEwpddfa1=DyGU7wP4617bTy0St-Q@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2302951.EbjHm8ZBjV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201107041701.12405.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 2c2a7fd4573d3c5b213be4ae460a6c9a --nextPart2302951.EbjHm8ZBjV Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 04 Jul 2011 15:48:06 Joshua Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:12:03 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > > o - Do live CDs actually mount filesystems on HDDs? > >> >=20 > >> > Only when you ask them to. > >>=20 > >> I'm stupid. Of _course_ a live CD can't mount HDD filesystems at boot. > >> To do this it would need /etc/fstab, for which it would need to be told > >> the root partition. A live CD doesn't get this. > >=20 > > A live CD can mount partitions automatically at boot, some do. all it > > needs to do is scan the disk partition tables, create the mount points > > and mount them. > >=20 > > Knoppix has been doing the first two for years, and writing the details > > to /etc/fstab to allow the user to mount them easily. > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > > Neil Bothwick > >=20 > > A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard. >=20 > And to further complicate it, many also use a similar technique for > finding themselves, mounting one filesystem after another until they > find some distinct marker file to identify where to find the rest of > their data. Others auto-mount and poke around for auto-loading of > extensions unless such features are disabled by a boot-time option. I've only come across LiveCDs which scan the drive and create mount points = =2D=20 but not mount any device unless explicitly asked to do so by the user. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some more recent installation CDs go=20 further than that, as Joshua claims. Joshua, which LiveCDs behave in the way you describe by automounting=20 partitions and searching fs? =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2302951.EbjHm8ZBjV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk4R48gACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZcXwCg28MyTNNdtmP1V2A/maXA32JZ 2sQAoIvKV9AgzA1tX0GobB3ijdq0JQxq =LSJ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2302951.EbjHm8ZBjV--