From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QdDyu-00042V-9L for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 04:08:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B203821C0BF; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 04:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42B0121C0DC for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 04:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Jul 2011 04:06:26 -0000 Received: from p54851869.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO gmx.net) [84.133.24.105] by mail.gmx.net (mp060) with SMTP; 03 Jul 2011 06:06:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20088476 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19lgaklCZtlKUmKyteARheSQbWZ3wq+6bWJ4RklK5 D99jYpUU7bvRqj Received: by gmx.net (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 Meino.Cramer@gmx.de; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 06:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 06:06:26 +0200 From: meino.cramer@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s) Message-ID: <20110703040626.GJ3049@solfire> References: <20110703012631.GH3049@solfire> <4E0FCA31.2040707@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E0FCA31.2040707@gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 6cc94672a6010536aaf7e95c24c57f69 JD [11-07-03 05:57]: > On 07/02/2011 06:26 PM, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote: > >Grant [11-07-03 01:12]: > >>>>>The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility > >>>>>but I > >>>>>also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is > >>>>>for > >>>>>playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're > >>>>>familiar > >>>>>with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as > >>>>>far > >>>>>as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er > >>>>>should look for? > >>>>> > >>>>>- Grant > >>>>Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? > >>>Yep. Unless you have old ATI hardware. Current hardware doesn't > >>>work well. > >>> Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended. > >>That's what I was afraid of. The fact that Nvidia has stopped making > >>onboard video will pose a problem. I could install an Nvidia video > >>card but I'm trying to keep temps low and I don't want a third fan in > >>the case. > >> > >>- Grant > >> > >Hi Grant, > > > >half a year ago my motherboard lost its blue smoke and I had to buy a > >new PC (the rest of the old one was outdated). > > > >One of my thoughts was: No graphics card with a fan! > > > >But the guy in the store said, that graphics cards without a fan has a > >problem: Either they are to slow (less heat) to be bought by the > >people or they are fast enough to be bought, but they will die > >sooner/easier due to a too hot GPU. > > > >He gave me a card with fans and said: "If you hear something too loud > >-- bring it back." > >I tested the card and: Nothing. The only thing I hear is the very > >quiet fan of the PC case. > > > >The card is a: MSI N430GT PCI Express 2.0. > > > >It has two fans, which means lesser noise since both fans can run > >at lower speed. > > > >You said, you will not need a gamer graphics card. But if you are a > >fan of rendering (Blender,Luxrendere etc...) you may consider a card > >with more muscles since GPU based rendering is the way to go. > > > >BUT: > >When reading the driver informations from nvidia I found that the > >sections saying "Added support for...." are still missing the GT 430. > >I dont know whether this has any impact to you work -- the card runs > >well with Linux and the OpenGL-based Blender does not have any > >problems (its GPU based render engine is currently under development > >so I didnt test that...) > > > >If you are intereseted in the setup of my PC, post me a mail! > > > >Best regards, > >mcc > Interesting recommendation. > Which of the two has a better history of providing good > support for linux drivers for their products? > > > ...?... Oh, I fear, once again my English damaged what I want to say... NVidia produces the chipsets but dont build graphics cards. They only make a reference board and offer that for $$$ to manufacturers. MSI is one of them. The MSI-card I use is a 100% "NVidia card". It runs to 100% with the original genuine nvidia-drivers. And on the boards are the original NVidia GPUs. GT 430 is the name of the GPU family. Or...what was the question? :) 8) ;) Best regards, mcc