Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Todd Goodman]

* Cahn Roger <rcahn@club-internet.fr> [110614 09:05]:
> Hi,
> 
[..]
>  * Bringing up interface eth0
>  *   dhcp ...
>  *     Running dhcpcd ...
> dhcpcd[3076]: version 5.2.12 starting
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: waiting for carrier
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: carrier acquired
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.20
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
> dhcpcd[3076]: timed out
> dhcpcd[3076]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
> dhcpcd[3076]: timed out
[..]

Hi Roger,

It looks like your DHCP server isn't serving addresses.

If it's your Internet router you might try resetting it (power cycling
it.)  I've seen them get wedged specifically relating to DHCP with many
different consumer brands.

Regards,

Todd

[gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

Hi,

Yesterday I tried to make a connection between my three PC
to manage my Epson printer: two with Win XP and Gentoo
and one with Win7.
I didn't succeed, but that's not important!
After reboot of the three machines
I went back to Win7: no problem
 and to my laptop with Xp and Gentoo: OK.

But the problem is on my desktop with two HD,
one with XP and the other with Gentoo amd64.
None of them can connect to internet neither gentoo nor XP.
I tryed many things (revdep-rebuild, verification in the box, etc.)
but I was unsuccessful. Here is what I become at boot:

 * Bringing up interface lo
 *   127.0.0.1/8 ...
 [ ok ]
 *   Adding routes
 *     127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1 ...
 [ ok ]
 * Bringing up interface eth0
 *   dhcp ...
 *     Running dhcpcd ...
dhcpcd[3076]: version 5.2.12 starting
dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: waiting for carrier
dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: carrier acquired
dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.20
dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
dhcpcd[3076]: timed out
dhcpcd[3076]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
dhcpcd[3076]: timed out
 [ !! ]
 [ !! ]
 * ERROR: net.eth0 failed to start
 * Mounting USB device filesystem [usbfs] ...
 [ ok ]
 * Mounting misc binary format filesystem ...
 [ ok ]
 * Activating swap devices ...
 [ ok ]
 * Initializing random number generator ...
 [ ok ]

rc boot logging stopped at Tue Jun 14 08:29:53 2011


rc default logging started at Tue Jun 14 08:29:53 2011

 * Bringing up interface eth0
 *   dhcp ...
*     Running dhcpcd ...
dhcpcd[3223]: version 5.2.12 starting
dhcpcd[3223]: eth0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.20
dhcpcd[3223]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
dhcpcd[3223]: timed out
dhcpcd[3223]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
dhcpcd[3223]: timed out
 [ !! ]
 [ !! ]
 * ERROR: net.eth0 failed to start
 * ERROR: cannot start netmount as net.eth0 would not start

And another try:

/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
 * Caching service dependencies ...
                                                              [ ok ]
 * Bringing up interface eth0
 *   dhcp ...
 *     Running dhcpcd ...
dhcpcd[6723]: version 5.2.12 starting
dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
dhcpcd[6723]: timed out
dhcpcd[6723]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: probing for an IPv4LL address
dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: checking for 169.254.79.43
dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.79.43
dhcpcd[6723]: forked to background, child pid 6744
                                                              [ ok ]
 *     received address 169.254.79.43/16

Could please anybody tell me how to solve this awkward problem?
Thank you very much
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 14:32:22 Cahn Roger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday I tried to make a connection between my three PC
> to manage my Epson printer: two with Win XP and Gentoo
> and one with Win7.
> I didn't succeed, but that's not important!
> After reboot of the three machines
> I went back to Win7: no problem
>  and to my laptop with Xp and Gentoo: OK.
> 
> But the problem is on my desktop with two HD,
> one with XP and the other with Gentoo amd64.
> None of them can connect to internet neither gentoo nor XP.
> I tryed many things (revdep-rebuild, verification in the box, etc.)
> but I was unsuccessful. Here is what I become at boot:
> 
>  * Bringing up interface lo
>  *   127.0.0.1/8 ...
>  [ ok ]
>  *   Adding routes
>  *     127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1 ...
>  [ ok ]
>  * Bringing up interface eth0
>  *   dhcp ...
>  *     Running dhcpcd ...
> dhcpcd[3076]: version 5.2.12 starting
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: waiting for carrier
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: carrier acquired
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.20
> dhcpcd[3076]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
> dhcpcd[3076]: timed out
> dhcpcd[3076]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
> dhcpcd[3076]: timed out
>  [ !! ]
>  [ !! ]
>  * ERROR: net.eth0 failed to start
>  * Mounting USB device filesystem [usbfs] ...
>  [ ok ]
>  * Mounting misc binary format filesystem ...
>  [ ok ]
>  * Activating swap devices ...
>  [ ok ]
>  * Initializing random number generator ...
>  [ ok ]
> 
> rc boot logging stopped at Tue Jun 14 08:29:53 2011
> 
> 
> rc default logging started at Tue Jun 14 08:29:53 2011
> 
>  * Bringing up interface eth0
>  *   dhcp ...
> *     Running dhcpcd ...
> dhcpcd[3223]: version 5.2.12 starting
> dhcpcd[3223]: eth0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.20
> dhcpcd[3223]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
> dhcpcd[3223]: timed out
> dhcpcd[3223]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
> dhcpcd[3223]: timed out
>  [ !! ]
>  [ !! ]
>  * ERROR: net.eth0 failed to start
>  * ERROR: cannot start netmount as net.eth0 would not start
> 
> And another try:
> 
> /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
>  * Caching service dependencies ...
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  * Bringing up interface eth0
>  *   dhcp ...
>  *     Running dhcpcd ...
> dhcpcd[6723]: version 5.2.12 starting
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
> dhcpcd[6723]: timed out
> dhcpcd[6723]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: probing for an IPv4LL address
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: checking for 169.254.79.43
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.79.43
> dhcpcd[6723]: forked to background, child pid 6744
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  *     received address 169.254.79.43/16
> 
> Could please anybody tell me how to solve this awkward problem?
> Thank you very much
> Roger

What does the router log show?

Can you please share:

ifconfig eth0

/etc/conf.d/net

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Tuesday 14 June 2011 15:32:22 Cahn Roger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
<snipped>

> But the problem is on my desktop with two HD,
> one with XP and the other with Gentoo amd64.
> None of them can connect to internet neither gentoo nor XP.
> I tryed many things (revdep-rebuild, verification in the box, etc.)
> but I was unsuccessful. Here is what I become at boot:
> 

<snipped logs>

> And another try:
> 
> /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start
>  * Caching service dependencies ...
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  * Bringing up interface eth0
>  *   dhcp ...
>  *     Running dhcpcd ...
> dhcpcd[6723]: version 5.2.12 starting
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: broadcasting for a lease
> dhcpcd[6723]: timed out
> dhcpcd[6723]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: probing for an IPv4LL address
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: checking for 169.254.79.43
> dhcpcd[6723]: eth0: using IPv4LL address 169.254.79.43
> dhcpcd[6723]: forked to background, child pid 6744
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  *     received address 169.254.79.43/16
> 
> Could please anybody tell me how to solve this awkward problem?
> Thank you very much
> Roger

Hi Roger,

The log you showed indicates that the PC is unable to reach the DHCP server.
As the issue occurs with both Operating Systems on the same machine makes me 
think there is an issue with the network-connection.

Can you check the network cable and connections to ensure that is actually 
correct?

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

Le 14/06/2011 15:15, Todd Goodman a écrit :

Hi Todd,

Thank you for your quick answer.

> It looks like your DHCP server isn't serving addresses.

Well, it serves adresses for W7, and on the laptop for XP and Gentoo.
The box is configured with fixed adresses.

> If it's your Internet router you might try resetting it 

I'll try it!

Thank you again Todd
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

Hi Mick,

> What does the router log show?

Euh, how can I get it???

> Can you please share:
> ifconfig eth0

ifconfig eth0
eth0    Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
           inet adr:169.254.79.43  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Masque:255.255.0.0
           adr inet6: fe80::21e:8cff:fe4a:44db/64 Scope:Lien
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:110 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:20708 (20.2 KiB)
          Interruption:17

/etc/conf.d/net

# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).

config_eth0="dhcp"

In the box I stopped the option fixed adresses,
but the problem remains the same   :-(

Thanks for your answers
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Can you check the network cable and connections to ensure that is actually 
> correct?

The cable and connections are well.
Thank you Joost
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Todd Goodman]

* Cahn Roger <rcahn@club-internet.fr> [110614 09:31]:
> Le 14/06/2011 15:15, Todd Goodman a écrit :
> 
> Hi Todd,

Hi Roger,

> 
> Thank you for your quick answer.

You're welcome (for what it's worth.)

> 
> > It looks like your DHCP server isn't serving addresses.
> 
> Well, it serves adresses for W7, and on the laptop for XP and Gentoo.
> The box is configured with fixed adresses.

Your DHCP server serves addresses for other hardware OK?

Just not on this box running either Gentoo or W7?

When you say fixed addresses you mean the DHCP server gives out a
fixed IP address based on the MAC address of the requestor?

Can you check the DHCP logs on the DHCP server?

> 
> > If it's your Internet router you might try resetting it 
> 
> I'll try it!

If that doesn't work, maybe a wireshark or tcpdump on your Gentoo
box and force it to send another DHCP request.

If you're using fixed IP addresses you might try manually configuring
the Gentoo box with it's IP address and see if networking all works
fine then?

Regards,

Todd

> 
> Thank you again Todd
> Roger
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/14/2011 05:45 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> Can you check the network cable and connections to ensure that is actually 
>> correct?
> 
> The cable and connections are well.

NIC became faulty?

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 15:42:52 Cahn Roger wrote:
> Hi Mick,
> 
> > What does the router log show?
> 
> Euh, how can I get it???

It depends on your router.  Usually routers have at least a GUI control panel 
access and one of the pages shows recent attempts to connect and authenticate.

Are your running some sort of an access control list on the router and have 
not included your MAC address?


> > Can you please share:
> > ifconfig eth0
> 
> ifconfig eth0
> eth0    Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
>            inet adr:169.254.79.43  Bcast:169.254.255.255 
> Masque:255.255.0.0 adr inet6: fe80::21e:8cff:fe4a:44db/64 Scope:Lien
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:110 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:20708 (20.2 KiB)
>           Interruption:17

The Rx bytes is zero - your router does not seem to respond.

Does this also stay zero if you set up a static address and route on the PC 
and try to ping the router?

> /etc/conf.d/net
> 
> # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
> # scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
> # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
> # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
> 
> config_eth0="dhcp"
> 
> In the box I stopped the option fixed adresses,
> but the problem remains the same   :-(

Try setting an address manually:

 ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0

 route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (assuming that this is your router) 

and then try to ping it:

 ping -c 3 192.168.1.1

If you can ping it and get a response then the problem is probably with the 
router.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> It depends on your router.  Usually routers have at least a GUI control panel 
> access and one of the pages shows recent attempts to connect and authenticate.

My router hasn't this!

> Are your running some sort of an access control list on the router and have 
> not included your MAC address?

The MAC adresses are included in the box.

> Try setting an address manually:
> 
>  ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
> 
>  route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (assuming that this is your router) 

I put this in /etc/conf.d/net;  is it right?

> and then try to ping it:
> 
>  ping -c 3 192.168.1.1

The answer:

ping -c 3 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable

--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms
pipe 3

Regards
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Your DHCP server serves addresses for other hardware OK?

Yes. A PC with W7, my laptop with XP and Gentoo
Both work fine.

The problem is on my desktop with two HD: XP and Gentoo
Both OS can't connect to Internet.

> When you say fixed addresses you mean the DHCP server gives out a
> fixed IP address based on the MAC address of the requestor?

Yes. I put manually in the box (router) ip and mac adresses.

> Can you check the DHCP logs on the DHCP server?
No!

Regards
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

>> Try setting an address manually:
>>
>>  ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
>>
>>  route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (assuming that this is your router) 
> 
> I put this in /etc/conf.d/net;  is it right?

No. Run them from terminal as root.
Then check.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

>>> Try setting an address manually:
>>>
>>>  ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>>  route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (assuming that this is your router) 

It doesn't work: error locating host target (for route)
Regards
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
> 
> and post output of

/etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
 * Caching service dependencies ...
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
                                                              [ ok ]
 * samba -> stop: smbd ...
                                                              [ ok ]
 * samba -> stop: nmbd ...
                                                              [ ok ]
 * Unmounting network filesystems ...
                                                              [ ok ]
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
/etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
 * net.eth0: error loading /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net
 * ERROR: net.eth0 failed to stop

(command unobtenaible)

Of course, ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up didn't give an answer!

> What's the IP of your router?

192.168.1.1

Thank's a lot for your help Thanasis
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/14/2011 10:45 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
>> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
>>
>> and post output of
> 
> /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
>  * Caching service dependencies ...
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  * samba -> stop: smbd ...
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  * samba -> stop: nmbd ...
>                                                               [ ok ]
>  * Unmounting network filesystems ...
>                                                               [ ok ]
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
>  * net.eth0: error loading /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net
>  * ERROR: net.eth0 failed to stop
> 
> (command unobtenaible)

Run these (in sequence) as root (and post output):

# echo > /etc/conf.d/net
# /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
# /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap
# ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
# ifconfig
# ping 192.168.1.1

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Run these (in sequence) as root (and post output):
> 
> # echo > /etc/conf.d/net
> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
> # ifconfig
> # ping 192.168.1.1

Bad luck: it fails.

Bureau cahn # echo > /etc/conf.d/net
Bureau cahn # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
 * Caching service dependencies ...
                                                              [ ok ]
 * Bringing down interface eth0
 *   Stopping dhcpcd on eth0 ...
                                                              [ ok ]
 *   Removing addresses
 *     192.168.1.20/24
Bureau cahn # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap
 * Manually resetting net.eth0 to stopped state
Bureau cahn # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
Bureau cahn # ifconfig
eth0      Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
          inet adr:192.168.1.20  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Masque:255.255.255.0
          adr inet6: fe80::21e:8cff:fe4a:44db/64 Scope:Lien
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:662 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:147085 (143.6 KiB)
          Interruption:17

lo        Lien encap:Boucle locale
          inet adr:127.0.0.1  Masque:255.0.0.0
          adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:39878 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:39878 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:0
          RX bytes:3166048 (3.0 MiB)  TX bytes:3166048 (3.0 MiB)

Bureau cahn # ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable

Thanks for help
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/14/2011 11:36 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
<snip>
> Bureau cahn # ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>>From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
>>From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
>>From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
>>From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
> 
>
Can you ping 192.168.1.1 from another machine?

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Can you ping 192.168.1.1 from another machine?

Yes, from my laptop with which I'm writing

Portable cahn # ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=3.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=3.86 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=3.96 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=3.94 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=7.46 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=6 ttl=64 time=4.65 ms
c64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=7 ttl=64 time=3.85 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=8 ttl=64 time=7.10 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=9 ttl=64 time=4.38 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=10 ttl=64 time=3.99 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9024ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 3.851/4.708/7.465/1.316 ms

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 18:44:43 Cahn Roger wrote:
> >>> Try setting an address manually:
> >>>  ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask
> >>>  255.255.255.0
> >>>  
> >>>  route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (assuming that this is your router)
> 
> It doesn't work: error locating host target (for route)


Hmm ... something is not right at the router, or your ethernet cable is 
faulty/unplugged.

Are you sure that 192.168.1.1 is the correct address for it?  After you set on 
the command line your ip address using ifconfig run this:

arping -c 3 -I eth0 192.168.1.1

If your router is not responding, please check its firewall list and any 
access control lists you may have set up for it - you may have typed 
incorrectly the MAC address for your eth0 NIC.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Todd Goodman]

* Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> [110614 17:20]:
> On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 20:45:30 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > > # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
> > > # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
> > > 
> > > and post output of
> > 
> > /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
> >  * Caching service dependencies ...
> > /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> > /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> > SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
> > /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> > /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> > SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
> > /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> > /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> 
> You need to remove those lines that I asked you to type on the command line 
> from the /etc/conf.d/net file - or look at the example file provided and use 
> that to define static address/broadcast/netmask correctly.
> 
> Typically something like:
> 
>   config_eth0="192.168.1.20/24" 
> 
> should do it.  If you want to define a static route and dns server add:
> 
>   routes_eth0="default via 192.168.1.1"
>   dns_servers_eth0="192.168.1.1"
> 
> HTH.
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mick

Well his /etc/conf.d/net file is now toast after what Thanasis had him
do.  So they're out of there now.  :-)

Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 20:45:30 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
> > # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
> > 
> > and post output of
> 
> /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
>  * Caching service dependencies ...
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable
> SIOCADDRT: Le fichier existe
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 9: broadcast : commande introuvable
> /etc/init.d/../conf.d/net: line 10: netmask : commande introuvable

You need to remove those lines that I asked you to type on the command line 
from the /etc/conf.d/net file - or look at the example file provided and use 
that to define static address/broadcast/netmask correctly.

Typically something like:

  config_eth0="192.168.1.20/24" 

should do it.  If you want to define a static route and dns server add:

  routes_eth0="default via 192.168.1.1"
  dns_servers_eth0="192.168.1.1"

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 12:33 AM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> Can you ping 192.168.1.1 from another machine?
> 
> Yes, from my laptop with which I'm writing
> 
> Portable cahn # ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=3.86 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=3.86 ms

Try changing ethernet cable and switch port for the pc that has the
problem, and ping the router again.

Then if the problem persists, delete
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and swap the network card (if
it's not onboard) with another (PCI) that you know is good.

If the card is onboard, do not delete
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, just add a PCI NIC, connect
the ethernet cable to this new PCI NIC and try to ping the router.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 12:33 AM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> Can you ping 192.168.1.1 from another machine?
> 
> Yes, from my laptop with which I'm writing
> 
> Portable cahn # ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=3.86 ms
>

If you have ethtool installed on the problematic pc, post the output of:

ethtool eth0

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 12:47 AM Mick wrote the following:
snip
> 
> You need to remove those lines that I asked you to type on the command line 
> from the /etc/conf.d/net 

He should have already removed them (see the messages in the thread).
/etc/conf.d/net should be empty by now, which means it defaults to dhcp.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 23:01:09 Thanasis wrote:
> on 06/15/2011 12:47 AM Mick wrote the following:
> snip
> 
> > You need to remove those lines that I asked you to type on the command
> > line from the /etc/conf.d/net
> 
> He should have already removed them (see the messages in the thread).
> /etc/conf.d/net should be empty by now, which means it defaults to dhcp.

Sure, but if he had then he wouldn't be getting all these configuration errors 
when he tried to stop the service.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 01:24 AM Mick wrote the following:
> On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 23:01:09 Thanasis wrote:
>> on 06/15/2011 12:47 AM Mick wrote the following:
>> snip
>>
>>> You need to remove those lines that I asked you to type on the command
>>> line from the /etc/conf.d/net
>>
>> He should have already removed them (see the messages in the thread).
>> /etc/conf.d/net should be empty by now, which means it defaults to dhcp.
> 
> Sure, but if he had then he wouldn't be getting all these configuration errors 
> when he tried to stop the service.

He shouldn't get those anymore with an empty file either.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 01:31 AM Thanasis wrote the following:
> on 06/15/2011 01:24 AM Mick wrote the following:
>> On Tuesday 14 Jun 2011 23:01:09 Thanasis wrote:
>>> on 06/15/2011 12:47 AM Mick wrote the following:
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> You need to remove those lines that I asked you to type on the command
>>>> line from the /etc/conf.d/net
>>>
>>> He should have already removed them (see the messages in the thread).
>>> /etc/conf.d/net should be empty by now, which means it defaults to dhcp.
>>
>> Sure, but if he had then he wouldn't be getting all these configuration errors 
>> when he tried to stop the service.
> 
> He shouldn't get those anymore with an empty file either.

If one wants to rebuild the /etc/conf.d/net file, he should take a look
at the example file /usr/share/doc/openrc-*/net.example as a guide.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 12:57 AM Thanasis wrote the following:
> on 06/15/2011 12:33 AM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>>> Can you ping 192.168.1.1 from another machine?
>>
>> Yes, from my laptop with which I'm writing
>>
>> Portable cahn # ping 192.168.1.1
>> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=3.86 ms
>>
> 
> If you have ethtool installed on the problematic pc, post the output of:
> 
> ethtool eth0
> 

f you don't have ethtool, post the output of:

# dmesg | grep eth

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

>> If you have ethtool installed on the problematic pc, post the output of:

>> ethtool eth0

No, I don't have it.

> f you don't have ethtool, post the output of:

> # dmesg | grep eth

 dmesg | grep eth
[    2.161822] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: addr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
[   15.970632] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface
[   15.971076] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[   19.140340] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full
duplex, flow control rx
[   19.140340] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[   29.418039] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 15 Jun 2011 09:04:09 Cahn Roger wrote:
> >> If you have ethtool installed on the problematic pc, post the output of:
> >> 
> >> ethtool eth0
> 
> No, I don't have it.
> 
> > f you don't have ethtool, post the output of:
> > 
> > # dmesg | grep eth
> 
>  dmesg | grep eth
> [    2.161822] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: addr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
> [   15.970632] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface
> [   15.971076] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
> [   19.140340] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full
> duplex, flow control rx
> [   19.140340] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
> [   29.418039] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

OK, the link is coming up.

I've forgotten where we left this ... Oh yes, your router was not responding.  
Once you boot up, have you tried:

/etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
/etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.20 up
arping -c 3 -I eth0 192.168.1.1

If this does not return anything then try to arping other machines in your 
LAN.  If you are getting reponses from other PCs but not your router, then the 
ethernet cable is good, but the router configuration is not.

It is probable then that your static IP address/MAC number that you have set 
up at the router has some error with it.  Look at that again and check for 
typos.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> open a root terminal and type
> ifconfig
> and
> route -n

Here it is:

ifconfig
eth0      Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
          inet adr:192.168.1.20  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Masque:255.255.255.0
          adr inet6: fe80::21e:8cff:fe4a:44db/64 Scope:Lien
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:8715 (8.5 KiB)
          Interruption:17

lo        Lien encap:Boucle locale
          inet adr:127.0.0.1  Masque:255.0.0.0
          adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:3480 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3480 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:0
          RX bytes:276568 (270.0 KiB)  TX bytes:276568 (270.0 KiB)

Bureau cahn # route -n
Table de routage IP du noyau
Destination     Passerelle      Genmask         Indic Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 15 Jun 2011 14:55:00 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > open a root terminal and type
> > ifconfig
> > and
> > route -n
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> ifconfig
> eth0      Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db
>           inet adr:192.168.1.20  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Masque:255.255.255.0
>           adr inet6: fe80::21e:8cff:fe4a:44db/64 Scope:Lien
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000
>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:8715 (8.5 KiB)
>           Interruption:17
> 
> lo        Lien encap:Boucle locale
>           inet adr:127.0.0.1  Masque:255.0.0.0
>           adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>           RX packets:3480 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:3480 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 lg file transmission:0
>           RX bytes:276568 (270.0 KiB)  TX bytes:276568 (270.0 KiB)
> 
> Bureau cahn # route -n
> Table de routage IP du noyau
> Destination     Passerelle      Genmask         Indic Metric Ref    Use
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> eth0 127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0       
> 0 lo

No gateway defined.  :(

When you then run:

 route add default gw 192.168.1.1

to define a route manually what do you get in response and then what does it 
show:

 route -n

and what does ip show:

 ip link show dev eth0
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 04:55 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> open a root terminal and type
>> ifconfig
>> and
>> route -n
> 

I wanted to see those when you have booted from a rescue CD.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 04:55 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> open a root terminal and type
>> ifconfig
>> and
>> route -n
> 
Try to boot from a rescue or live CD (like ubuntu maybe) and see what
you get.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> When you then run:

>  route add default gw 192.168.1.1

> to define a route manually what do you get in response and then what does it 
> show:

>  route -n

> and what does ip show:

>  ip link show dev eth0

Here it is. But the last command not found!

route add default gw 192.168.1.1
Bureau cahn # route -n
Table de routage IP du noyau
Destination     Passerelle      Genmask         Indic Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 lo
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
Bureau cahn # ip link show dev eth0
bash: ip : commande introuvable

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Cahn Roger <rcahn@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> Bureau cahn # ip link show dev eth0
> bash: ip : commande introuvable

It is in package sys-apps/iproute2

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

>>> open a root terminal and type
>>> ifconfig
>>> and
>>> route -n
>>
> Try to boot from a rescue or live CD (like ubuntu maybe) and see what
> you get.

After the SystemRescueCD was launched, ifconfig
gave for etho a bad adress: fe00::............

and route -n gave "kernel IP routing table"
but without answers

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

Le 15/06/2011 16:52, Paul Hartman a écrit :

> It is in package sys-apps/iproute2

Yes and I haven't it emerged.
But I can't do it because...I have no connection to internet!

Thanks Paul for helping me
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Cahn Roger <rcahn@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> Yes and I haven't it emerged.
> But I can't do it because...I have no connection to internet!

I'm sorry. :) I didn't read the entire thread.

If you have another device with Internet connection you can download
the missing files and place it into your /usr/portage/distfiles

For example you can download from http://mirrors.kernel.org/gentoo/distfiles/

After the required distfiles exist, emerge should work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 05:55 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
> 
>>>> open a root terminal and type
>>>> ifconfig
>>>> and
>>>> route -n
>>>
>> Try to boot from a rescue or live CD (like ubuntu maybe) and see what
>> you get.
> 
> After the SystemRescueCD was launched, ifconfig
> gave for etho a bad adress: fe00::............

What do you mean bad address?
Did you start the network? It should get an IP address from the router's
dhcp server.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> If you have another device with Internet connection you can download
> the missing files and place it into your /usr/portage/distfiles

Thank you Paul for the tip   :-)
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

Now I have emerged iproute2 and I can give also the last answer

>  route -n
> 
> and what does ip show:
> 
>  ip link show dev eth0

route add default gw 192.168.1.1
Bureau cahn # route -n
Table de routage IP du noyau
Destination     Passerelle      Genmask         Indic Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 lo
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
Bureau cahn # ip link show dev eth0
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 06:47 PM Thanasis wrote the following:
> on 06/15/2011 05:55 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>>
>>>>> open a root terminal and type
>>>>> ifconfig
>>>>> and
>>>>> route -n
>>>>
>>> Try to boot from a rescue or live CD (like ubuntu maybe) and see what
>>> you get.
>>
>> After the SystemRescueCD was launched, ifconfig
>> gave for etho a bad adress: fe00::............
> 
> What do you mean bad address?
> Did you start the network? It should get an IP address from the router's
> dhcp server.
> 
> 
Once you are inside the SystemRescueCD (has finished booting) try to
start the network. It should get an IP from the router's dhcp server.
If it doesn't, then try to assign manually one to eth0, and test.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 15 Jun 2011 16:53:58 Cahn Roger wrote:
> Now I have emerged iproute2 and I can give also the last answer
> 
> >  route -n
> > 
> > and what does ip show:
> >  ip link show dev eth0
> 
> route add default gw 192.168.1.1
> Bureau cahn # route -n
> Table de routage IP du noyau
> Destination     Passerelle      Genmask         Indic Metric Ref    Use
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> eth0 127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0       
> 0 lo 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0       
> 0 eth0 Bureau cahn # ip link show dev eth0
> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
> state UP qlen 1000
>     link/ether 00:1e:8c:4a:44:db brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

OK, this looks good!

Can you please try to ping your router:

ping -c 3 192.168.1.1

if this fails try to ping other PCs in your LAN.  If that fails too can you 
use arping instead:

arping -c 3 -I eth0 192.168.1.1

or the same with the IP addresses of other machines in your LAN.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Once you are inside the SystemRescueCD (has finished booting) try to
> start the network. It should get an IP from the router's dhcp server.
> If it doesn't, then try to assign manually one to eth0, and test.

OK. I make an ifconfig and the adress is: 169.264.240.204
and of course Firefox has no connection

Was it that what you meant?

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Can you please try to ping your router:

> ping -c 3 192.168.1.1

It fails: Destination Host Unreachable

> if this fails try to ping other PCs in your LAN.  

I can't get other PCs

If that fails too can you use arping instead:
> 
> arping -c 3 -I eth0 192.168.1.1
> 
> or the same with the IP addresses of other machines in your LAN.

All what I try fails!

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 07:26 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
> 
>> Once you are inside the SystemRescueCD (has finished booting) try to
>> start the network. It should get an IP from the router's dhcp server.
>> If it doesn't, then try to assign manually one to eth0, and test.
> 
> OK. I make an ifconfig and the adress is: 169.264.240.204
> and of course Firefox has no connection
> 
> Was it that what you meant?
> 
> 
> 
> 
Assign one manually.

ifconfig eth0 down 0
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111 up
ifconfig
route -n
ping 192.168.1.1
arp -a

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Assign one manually.

> ifconfig eth0 down 0
> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111 up
> ifconfig
> route -n
> ping 192.168.1.1
> arp -a

It works as well with SystemRescueCD as on a terminal
But ping to another PC gives Destination Host Unreachable

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/15/2011 08:31 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>> Assign one manually.
> 
>> ifconfig eth0 down 0
>> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111 up
>> ifconfig
>> route -n
>> ping 192.168.1.1
>> arp -a
> 
> It works as well with SystemRescueCD as on a terminal
> But ping to another PC gives Destination Host Unreachable
> 
> 
> 
> 
Does arp -a show the mac address of the other pc or router just after
trying to ping them?

ping 192.168.1.1
arp -a

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> So try the following and post output:

> # ping -c 3 192.168.1.1 ; arp -a

ping -c 3 192.168.1.1 ; arp -a
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable

--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms
pipe 3
? (192.168.1.1) at <incomplete> on eth0

Well, I stop beczusse I'm occupied now!
To morrow is another day   ;-)
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 15 Jun 2011 17:44:40 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > Can you please try to ping your router:
> > 
> > ping -c 3 192.168.1.1
> 
> It fails: Destination Host Unreachable
> 
> > if this fails try to ping other PCs in your LAN.
> 
> I can't get other PCs
> 
> If that fails too can you use arping instead:
> > arping -c 3 -I eth0 192.168.1.1
> > 
> > or the same with the IP addresses of other machines in your LAN.
> 
> All what I try fails!

Can you ping your machine from any other PC on your LAN?  If not please change 
the ethernet cable.  This seems soooo much like a hardware failure I can't 
think of anything else.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Can you ping your machine from any other PC on your LAN?  

No: Destination Host Unreachable
(from 192.168.1.22 to 192.168.1.20)

> If not please change the ethernet cable. 

I did it, it was even a new one!

 > This seems soooo much like a hardware failure
> I can't think of anything else.

I would like this was the key, but...   :-(
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 15 Jun 2011 22:49:46 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > Can you ping your machine from any other PC on your LAN?
> 
> No: Destination Host Unreachable
> (from 192.168.1.22 to 192.168.1.20)
> 
> > If not please change the ethernet cable.
> 
> I did it, it was even a new one!
> 
>  > This seems soooo much like a hardware failure
> > 
> > I can't think of anything else.
> 
> I would like this was the key, but...   :-(

OK, let's look at this from the router side ... what router make & model do 
you have?

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:14:28 +0100, Mick wrote:

> > > If not please change the ethernet cable.  
> > 
> > I did it, it was even a new one!
> >   
> >  > This seems soooo much like a hardware failure
> > > 
> > > I can't think of anything else.  
> > 
> > I would like this was the key, but...   :-(  
> 
> OK, let's look at this from the router side ... what router make &
> model do you have?

I'd go even more basic, connect directly to another computer using a
crossover cable, set addresses on both with ifconfig and see if they can
ping one another. This really sounds like broken hardware and if the
cable is fine, the NIC is suspect.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious animal on the earth.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 14 June 2011 16:30:54 Thanasis wrote:
> on 06/14/2011 05:45 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
> >> Can you check the network cable and connections to ensure that is
> >> actually correct?
> > 
> > The cable and connections are well.
> 
> NIC became faulty?

After reading this thread, I'd say that either the NIC is faulty or he's 
using a cross-over cable instead of straight-through.

Or someone's standing on the cable  :-)

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Wednesday 15 June 2011 23:38:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:14:28 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > > > If not please change the ethernet cable.
> > > 
> > > I did it, it was even a new one!
> > > 
> > >  > This seems soooo much like a hardware failure
> > > > 
> > > > I can't think of anything else.
> > > 
> > > I would like this was the key, but...   :-(
> > 
> > OK, let's look at this from the router side ... what router make &
> > model do you have?
> 
> I'd go even more basic, connect directly to another computer using a
> crossover cable, set addresses on both with ifconfig and see if they can
> ping one another. This really sounds like broken hardware and if the
> cable is fine, the NIC is suspect.

Or swap the cable with a working PC and vice-versa.
If then the issue stays with the currently broken one, then the issue is 
probably with the network card in the broken one.

If the issue affects the other PC, then the problem is the cable. I've had 
issues before where I couldn't get a connection using CAT-6 cables. Didn't 
check properly and the network card wouldn't allow it. The card did, however, 
claim there was a link...

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

 Or someone's standing on the cable  :-)

Yes, a bad spirit!!!

I resume.
1-The problem occured after I tried to share my Epson printer
between my three PCs: Gentoo+XP (twice) and W7
2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E)
3-The cable from the dektop, where the problem exists,
works fine on the laptop which is without problem,
and the cable from the laptop doesn't work on the desktop.
Therefore, I think, that's not a cable problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:50:00 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote:

> 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E)

Can you get hold of a PCI* NIC to try, it will appear as eth1. If it
works the problem is with the motherboard NIC. I'd also check the BIOS to
make sure the pixies haven't disabled the NIC in the BIOS settings,
stranger things have happened, sometimes disabling and re-enabling a
device can resurrect it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Hyperbole is absolutely the worst mistake you can possibly make

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

 This really sounds like broken hardware and if the
> cable is fine, the NIC is suspect.

I'm afraid you're right!
But, as I just wrote, the NIC is included in the motherboard...

PERHAPS a solution: try a restore from the
external HD where I have saved a week ago with
fsarchiver on SystemRescueCD.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:06:19 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote:

>  This really sounds like broken hardware and if the
> > cable is fine, the NIC is suspect.
> 
> I'm afraid you're right!
> But, as I just wrote, the NIC is included in the motherboard...
> 
> PERHAPS a solution: try a restore from the
> external HD where I have saved a week ago with
> fsarchiver on SystemRescueCD.

No amount of farting around with software will bring dead hardware back
to life. Just try another NIC, at least that way you'll know.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

(A)bort (R)etry (S)ell it

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Can you get hold of a PCI* NIC to try, it will appear as eth1. 

Excuse me, I don't understand what you mean " get hold of a PCI* NIC"  :-(

A lspci gives:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E
Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12)

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Thursday 16 June 2011 09:50:00 Cahn Roger wrote:
>  Or someone's standing on the cable  :-)
> 
> Yes, a bad spirit!!!
> 
> I resume.
> 1-The problem occured after I tried to share my Epson printer
> between my three PCs: Gentoo+XP (twice) and W7

Is the printer still connected and switched on?
It's possible this is part of the problem

> 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E)

Those can, unfortunately, also break

> 3-The cable from the dektop, where the problem exists,
> works fine on the laptop which is without problem,
> and the cable from the laptop doesn't work on the desktop.
> Therefore, I think, that's not a cable problem.

I agree, the cable has been proven to work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Thursday 16 June 2011 10:28:47 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > Can you get hold of a PCI* NIC to try, it will appear as eth1.
> 
> Excuse me, I don't understand what you mean " get hold of a PCI* NIC"  :-(
> 
> A lspci gives:
> 
> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E
> Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12)

What Cahn Roger means is, can you get hold of a network card that is not 
included on your mainboard?
In other words, can you test using a new network card that you built into the 
computer?

Can you try checking the BIOS settings to see if there is something there that 
might cause problems with the network device on the mainboard?


Based on all the information provided already, there is a very good chance 
that the network card on your mainboard is no longer working correctly.
I am, to be honest, hoping that it is caused by interference of the printer or 
by a BIOS setting.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Based on all the information provided already, there is a very good chance 
> that the network card on your mainboard is no longer working correctly.

I'm afraid you're right, because neither Gentoo nor XP work and they're
on two different HD.

> I am, to be honest, hoping that it is caused by interference of the printer 

It was my first idea, because it arrived just afterwards.

> or by a BIOS setting.

I verified, but didn't see any wrong setting

I'll try with an other network card...when I get time!
Thank's all for trying to bring me out of the trouble.
I'll tell you what will happen.
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[William Kenworthy]

Apologies if I missed someone already asking these:

1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging
something valid?

2. can you ping yourself (both 127.0.0.1 and the nic IP) - cable plugged
in

3. do you have IP tables installed - "iptables -vnL" and check you have
not firewalled yourself off from the world somehow.

4. set up a ping and check "dmesg" and terminal 12 (<ctrl-alt-F12>) for
anything meaningful.

5. as an outside chance, run "modinfo [eth_module]" - get the right
module name from "lsmod"

BillK




On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 11:55 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote:
> > Based on all the information provided already, there is a very good chance 
> > that the network card on your mainboard is no longer working correctly.
> 
> I'm afraid you're right, because neither Gentoo nor XP work and they're
> on two different HD.
> 
> > I am, to be honest, hoping that it is caused by interference of the printer 
> 
> It was my first idea, because it arrived just afterwards.
> 
> > or by a BIOS setting.
> 
> I verified, but didn't see any wrong setting
> 
> I'll try with an other network card...when I get time!
> Thank's all for trying to bring me out of the trouble.
> I'll tell you what will happen.
> Roger
> 
> 
> 

-- 
William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
Home in Perth!

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Thursday 16 Jun 2011 09:02:01 Cahn Roger wrote:
> > OK, let's look at this from the router side ... what router make & model
> > do you have?
> 
> It's a box through which I get internet, telephone.
> The name is Neuf-Box and given by access supplier SFR.
> It continue to work well on my two other PCs and telephone
> connection is normal.

OK, I don't know how much SFR have locked down their firmware.  You should be 
able to access its control panel using a browser (using another PC of course) 
and pointing it to http://192.168.178.1 (the default address for this router 
seems to be http://192.168.1.1).

Then work your way through the menu until you find a log.  If there is one 
available then have a look at what it shows when you try to connect with your 
faulty PC.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/16/2011 10:50 AM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
>  Or someone's standing on the cable  :-)
> 
> Yes, a bad spirit!!!
> 
> I resume.
> 1-The problem occured after I tried to share my Epson printer
> between my three PCs: Gentoo+XP (twice) and W7
> 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E)
> 3-The cable from the dektop, where the problem exists,
> works fine on the laptop which is without problem,
> and the cable from the laptop doesn't work on the desktop.
> Therefore, I think, that's not a cable problem.
> 
> 
> 
Reset the switch too?

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Apologies if I missed someone already asking these:

No problem! Thanks to try to help me.

> 1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging
> something valid?

No. They are stable

> 2. can you ping yourself (both 127.0.0.1 and the nic IP) - cable plugged
> in

They work both (127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.20 my desktop IP)

> 3. do you have IP tables installed - "iptables -vnL" and check you have
> not firewalled yourself off from the world somehow.

Not iptables installed.

> 4. set up a ping and check "dmesg" and terminal 12 (<ctrl-alt-F12>) for
> anything meaningful.

ping to my laptop which works (192.168.0.22) fails.
In dmesg (very very long!) I didn't find anything
I could understand but this:
[   11.002756] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface
[   11.003194] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[   11.113427] Adding 2048280k swap on /dev/sdb2.  Priority:-1 extents:1
across:2048280k
[   14.025657] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full
duplex, flow control rx
[   14.026096] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[   24.386040] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

With ctrl+alt+F12 i canread this (interesting?)
Bureau ntpd_intres[3301] host name not found: 0.gentoo.pool.ntp.org
(3 other lines like this with number 2, 3, 4)

> 5. as an outside chance, run "modinfo [eth_module]" - get the right
> module name from "lsmod"

in lsmod I don't have a module eth_module

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Reset the switch too?

Excuse me Thanasis but I don't understand what you mean   ;-(

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Thanasis]

on 06/16/2011 05:11 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
> 
>> Reset the switch too?
> 
> Excuse me Thanasis but I don't understand what you mean   ;-(
> 
> 
> 
Reset, or power-off and power-on the switch/hub.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Thursday 16 June 2011 17:20:10 Thanasis wrote:
> on 06/16/2011 05:11 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following:
> >> Reset the switch too?
> > 
> > Excuse me Thanasis but I don't understand what you mean   ;-(
> 
> Reset, or power-off and power-on the switch/hub.

Or simply, shut down everything that's networked, eg. router(s), 
switch(es)/hub(s), computer(s),....

Wait 5 minutes and then restart the whole thing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> Wait 5 minutes and then restart the whole thing.

I did it, but without success  :-(

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[William Kenworthy]

On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 16:10 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote:
> > Apologies if I missed someone already asking these:
> 
> No problem! Thanks to try to help me.
> 
> > 1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging
> > something valid?
> 
> No. They are stable
> 

That indicates a problem - if a packet is going out/in, the lights
shouls flash

> > 2. can you ping yourself (both 127.0.0.1 and the nic IP) - cable plugged
> > in
> 
> They work both (127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.20 my desktop IP)
> 
that would indicate the software (protocol stack) is ok

> > 3. do you have IP tables installed - "iptables -vnL" and check you have
> > not firewalled yourself off from the world somehow.
> 
> Not iptables installed.
ok

> 
> > 4. set up a ping and check "dmesg" and terminal 12 (<ctrl-alt-F12>) for
> > anything meaningful.
> 
> ping to my laptop which works (192.168.0.22) fails.
> In dmesg (very very long!) I didn't find anything
> I could understand but this:
> [   11.002756] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface
> [   11.003194] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
> [   11.113427] Adding 2048280k swap on /dev/sdb2.  Priority:-1 extents:1
> across:2048280k
> [   14.025657] sky2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full
> duplex, flow control rx
> [   14.026096] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
> [   24.386040] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> 

normal, seeing the cable and a valid line discipline the other end

> With ctrl+alt+F12 i canread this (interesting?)
> Bureau ntpd_intres[3301] host name not found: 0.gentoo.pool.ntp.org
> (3 other lines like this with number 2, 3, 4)
> 
ntpd is the network time protocol daemon - its basicly complaining about
no network.

> > 5. as an outside chance, run "modinfo [eth_module]" - get the right
> > module name from "lsmod"
> 
> in lsmod I don't have a module eth_module
> 
> 
in this comntext [ ] normally means optional or "replace this" so you
need to do an lsmod, identify the module for your ethernet card (sky2?)
and rum "modinfo eth_module" replacing eth_module with the real module
name.

> 
> 
> 

Next I would remove the switch and use a crossover cable to another
machine and use ethtool on each end to go deeper into what the
hardware/cable is doing.  You can still get problems with one end being
say 10Mb/s and the other running a different speed/duplex etc.  I am
finding that 1Ghz chips seem less than reliable in this regard to older
switches that way!  I also have some 4 port sun 100mhz cards that need
the other end always up before powering the machine they are in on as
nothing I can do once up will get the ends in sync.


also try "cat /proc/net/dev" and see if that shows anything useful

BillK


-- 
William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
Home in Perth!

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

>>> 1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging
>>> something valid?

>> No. They are stable

> That indicates a problem - if a packet is going out/in, the lights
> shouls flash

Excuse me; I looked only half a second!!!  Yes they are flashing.

Since this night I found something important: the little box
put in the socket wall from where the cable goes out, doesn't
no more work!!!
When I put it on my two other PCs they can't connect to internet.
For this reason I use one of the boxes, which works, on my desktop.
Between this one and my laptop pings are ok.
The two PCs can recognize each other.
But, on my desktop I don't have yet internet connection.
Is the network card even so out???

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> If the PC has wireless it would be a quick test to run to prove if the eth0 
> NIC on the mobo is borked.

Yesterday night, under Win XP (!), I could connect
to internet with wifi.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Cahn Roger]

> But, on my desktop I don't have yet internet connection.
> Is the network card even so out???

I don't know why, but my desktop is now connected to internet!
The only thing I did was a reboot!

Thanks a lot to you all who tried to help me.
It was a hard way to obtain the solution.
The problem was really a hardware one,
not the cable, but just the little box connected
to the wall socket for my connection to the router
through the house electric circuit.
But the most important thing is to succeed   :-)
Once more a great thank you.
Roger

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:29:48 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote:

> Thanks a lot to you all who tried to help me.
> It was a hard way to obtain the solution.
> The problem was really a hardware one,
> not the cable, but just the little box connected
> to the wall socket for my connection to the router
> through the house electric circuit.

You've been using powerline networking and never thought to mention it
throughout this entire thread, even when people were saying it had to be
a hardware problem?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Roger Cahn]

> You've been using powerline networking and never thought to mention it
> throughout this entire thread, even when people were saying it had to be
> a hardware problem?

Excuse me Neil, and the others, but you're right,
I should have mentionned it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Mick]

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On Friday 17 Jun 2011 10:56:30 Roger Cahn wrote:
> > You've been using powerline networking and never thought to mention it
> > throughout this entire thread, even when people were saying it had to be
> > a hardware problem?
> 
> Excuse me Neil, and the others, but you're right,
> I should have mentionned it.

Well, as long as your connection problem is now solved you can carry on with 
using your Gentoo!  :)
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Roger Cahn]

> Well, as long as your connection problem is now solved you can carry on with 
> using your Gentoo!  :)

Yes, I'm very happy to be able
to use it again on my desktop.
Long life to Gentoo, indeed!!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[JDM]

All hail to that. Gentoo is the best. By far.
------Original Message------
From: Roger Cahn
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
Sent: 17 Jun 2011 12:32


> Well, as long as your connection problem is now solved you can carry on with 
> using your Gentoo!  :)

Yes, I'm very happy to be able
to use it again on my desktop.
Long life to Gentoo, indeed!!!





JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[Tanstaafl]

On 2011-06-17 3:36 AM, Cahn Roger wrote:
> Since this night I found something important: the little box
> put in the socket wall from where the cable goes out, doesn't
> no more work!!!

Wow...

All of this wasted bandwidth and you are just *now* getting around to
mentioning that you are using a powerline adapter?

Remind me to never waste time reading one of your threads again.