Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

[Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>]

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On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
> Threads changing  Was: OT: website design:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to
> >see where it got messed up.  Sorry to use the technical term "messed
> >up" but it fits rather well.  lol
> 
> Okay, this is my second follow-up to this message, and things are
> becoming much clearer in my mind and somewhat more complicated in
> reality.
> 
> The message to which I am replying has the following header lines:
> 
> Message-ID: <h088G-8nx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 
> X-Original-Message-ID: <4DEAB868.6040001@gmail.com>
> 
> My first reply has these two header lines, the first of which should be
> part of the thread formation process used by a good MUA:
> 
> References: <h0nU6-PO-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
>  <h0nU6-PO-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nU6-PO-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
>  <h0nU6-PO-19@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nU6-PO-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
>  <h0nU6-PO-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nU6-PO-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
>  <h0nU6-PO-27@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nU6-PO-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
>  <h0nU6-PO-31@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nU6-PO-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
>  <h0nU6-PO-35@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0o3M-1jx-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 
> X-Original-References: <gZYsG-h5-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<gZYsG-h5-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h07vY-7fk-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 	<h088G-8nx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
> 
> The X-Original-References: line has the correct message id as the last
> one in the list.  This absolutely correct, which means that Claws-Mail
> is doing the right thing.
> 
> The References: line has some really weird replacements for the ones
> that were originally in the message I submitted.  Unless list messages
> are being assigned different message id's for different distribution
> mechanisms (SMTP/POP3 and NNTP), this means the list server is broken.
> This would be a third, and more pernicious, source of thread breakage.
> 
> In my previous reply to this message, I changed the Subject: line
> slightly: I removed the "Was OT: website design" tail.  This caused the
> thread to break in my MUA too.  In turn, this implies that Claws was
> "wallpapering over the crack" by rejoining the thread using Subject:
> and Date: headers to put the messages into chronological sequence
> within Subject: text grouping.  I suspect other MUAs are doing the same,
> which is why the problem is not perceived more widely.
> 
> I now need to change my subscription details so that I receive messages
> by email, as well as through Usenet.  This will then tell me if message
> id's are the same across delivery mechanisms or different.
> 
> Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)

Ha, ha!  I'm more than others it seems!

Also have a look at gmane.  Some of your responses (and Indi's) are broken.
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Regards,
Mick

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