From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QSzFq-0004py-Gw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:23:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44FDA1C09F; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from karnak.local (cpc2-lutn10-2-0-cust603.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com [81.97.90.92]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CA91C09F for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by karnak.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A52A3003 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:22:08 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at karnak.local Received: from karnak.local ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (karnak.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8NGjDgCY3oHc for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:22:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from karnak.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by karnak.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D903002 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:22:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:22:00 +0100 From: David W Noon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design Message-ID: <20110604232200.36c03637@karnak.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Luton Operatic Society X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/KsQbyh_DqueNRuCftq2KGMz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: feef8b2e0b8db02f3ca963e2c3621997 --Sig_/KsQbyh_DqueNRuCftq2KGMz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: [snip] >Well, something works now. This is threaded as it should be. So,=20 >whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away. lol > >I don't want you to think I was upset or anything. I just went back >and noticed you was one of the ones that it was breaking the threads >on. Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the breakage. A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten, regardless of its initial value. This is why correctly posted messages have the Bastard Operator From Hell designation: the domain name of Gentoo's list server is bofh.it. This also means that those who read this list's messages via email will always see a valid Message-ID: line. Now, one other possible cause of message id mismatch is people posting directly to Usenet as well as through the list server. All NNTP servers should have the newsgroup that is a reflection of this mailing list marked as "no posting allowed"; certainly news.eternal-september.org is configured that way. However, if a misposted message gets through from another Usenet-registered NNTP server, I will see it with the alternate Message-ID: line, not the one generated by the Gentoo list server. It is messages such as this that cause the breakage in threads when somebody (anybody) reading through an NNTP server posts a follow-up to such a message. So, when you see a breakage in a message thread, it is the message that is the tail-end of the original thread that is causing the breakage, not the message that apparently starts the new thread. I hope all is clear now. --=20 Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwnoon@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* --Sig_/KsQbyh_DqueNRuCftq2KGMz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk3qsA0ACgkQc9/LpQ70v49nSgCfbDpxmsVU7XPdHvmFYEOB7k1Z MmcAn323zTUTJ3Mv+a+8pbYjOa2Bs1xc =UBGF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KsQbyh_DqueNRuCftq2KGMz--