Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

[Indi <thebeelzebubtrigger@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:57:44PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> David W Noon wrote:
> > Not a problem.  In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
> > breakage.
> >
> > A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of
> > all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten,
> > regardless of its initial value.  This is why correctly posted messages
> > have the Bastard Operator From Hell designation: the domain name of
> > Gentoo's list server is bofh.it.  This also means that those who read
> > this list's messages via email will always see a valid Message-ID: line.
> >
> > Now, one other possible cause of message id mismatch is people posting
> > directly to Usenet as well as through the list server.  All NNTP
> > servers should have the newsgroup that is a reflection of this mailing
> > list marked as "no posting allowed"; certainly
> > news.eternal-september.org is configured that way.  However, if a
> > misposted message gets through from another Usenet-registered NNTP
> > server, I will see it with the alternate Message-ID: line, not the one
> > generated by the Gentoo list server.  It is messages such as this that
> > cause the breakage in threads when somebody (anybody) reading through
> > an NNTP server posts a follow-up to such a message.
> >
> > So, when you see a breakage in a message thread, it is the message that
> > is the tail-end of the original thread that is causing the breakage,
> > not the message that apparently starts the new thread.
> >
> > I hope all is clear now.
> >    
> 
> 
> Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to 
> see where it got messed up.  Sorry to use the technical term "messed up" 
> but it fits rather well.  lol
> 

I don't think that's quite accurate, but the problem is the MID on 
usenet does not match the MID used for the mailing list. So if you 
"blame" the MID then you could say it was the message I replied to 
giving my MUA "bad information" that broke the thread. 

I tend to see it as I inadvertantly broke the thread due to the 
mail2news gateway breaking with email conventions -- no actually, 
due to my inattention (because the workaround is trivial, it just never
occurred to me that I needed to watch for that).

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