From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QSwpX-0000Ml-9h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 19:48:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D1471C155; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDC51C155 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywl2 with SMTP id 2so1579283ywl.40 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:46:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=IT7GVKXyETWZddeDWONT+WkUHzmDTECqqFufSSLNfG4=; b=axBGg77+rdR+TahFt+t9xHCVnkol9zEqhv5KY65OqS/bEK2ESPuvis/jIk6F0IMJK8 uxQhOuMj38VSpd0cRWlMhg6A/jOF5XaxEJ7SQ+5NfParYW4EMbyqJckme0tKFqsSgzML ekZjRkH1MESmnuJojNPgHLojVgCQkq8c3CMEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=jF+DRyclg4pj0QUtB0Iic+YWJdfMoCTSZUsN9D7GPB1Fu9S7JX+12PhBLpGrAaQNqd WHXt3lt9Rz89+N96tF7Sbt66dipccax1+g7BQsAztU4w8KiGyKfdB4eBoOertIPmarBE zvB7xuQw35Z1w7QFj89CjnBAcbfnZgPxWWrtg= Received: by 10.91.68.3 with SMTP id v3mr429467agk.84.1307216812862; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaurahari.merseine.nu (adsl-72-152-83-64.asm.bellsouth.net [72.152.83.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c26sm2067202ana.21.2011.06.04.12.46.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:46:49 -0400 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design Message-ID: <20110604194649.GA4034@gaurahari.merseine.nu> References: <61A321C6-5D7C-49CE-B87B-3E4180958D22@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <20110604184342.GB23349@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <4DEA80A8.5060609@badapple.net> <2630798.FqQb8rvnce@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2630798.FqQb8rvnce@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 699500ea74e7dcda683f6a3e9cacca3a On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote: > > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, In= di > > >> did opine > > >>=20 > > >> thusly: > > >>> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > >>>> I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like > > >>>> top > > >>>> posting. Some people have to top post because the device they a= re > > >>>> using won't let them reply any other way. > > >>>>=20 > > >>>> I just wonder if there is some setting that could be changed > > >>>> somewhere > > >>>> to make it work correctly with usenet, or whatever you were usin= g. > > >>>=20 > > >>> As soon as Alan said it was me, I thought of the difference betwe= en > > >>> usenet and email headers and that mail2news gateway. It actually > > >>> shouldn't be hard to workaround, but having already worked around= a > > >>> couple of other issues with it I'm ready to just use the email li= ke > > >>> "normal folks" and be done fooling with it. :) > > >>=20 > > >> FWIW, > > >>=20 > > >> If I set kmail to display just routine ordinary threaded mail ther= e's > > >> a lot less thread breakage. It's not all gone, but it is considera= bly > > >> less. > > >>=20 > > >> Setting kmail to display threads based on "activity" - whatever th= e > > >> blazes that is - breaks things wholesale. I haven't managed to nar= row > > >> it down at all so I have no idea what the algorithm is. > > >>=20 > > >> Looks like there's more to this than just usernet<->mail gateway > > >> brokenness > > >=20 > > > I'd switch if *mutt* was breaking threading for other people, but I= 'm > > > pretty sure it isn't. Now kmail and the other pointy-clicky-html-lo= ving > > > apps, *those* I don't trust... Tried 'em, found 'em wanting. ;) > > >=20 > > > It would be good to hear from more people running different MUAs, > > > but IMO mutt is the Gold Standard and is almost certaily doing what= it's > > > supposed to do. > >=20 > > Whatever you're using is breaking threading in Thunderbird and I can'= t > > think of anyone else lately I've had the problem with. Also mutt has > > broken threading in the past and even between different versions of > > itself... so calling it a gold standard may be an overstatement. >=20 > it is golden brown, runny and smelly. Some call it 'gold'. >=20 I hate the way you beat around the bush. Just tell us how you *really* feel, dammit! ;) --=20 caveat utilitor =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2= =9D=A4=20