From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QSu2Y-0006Zu-QW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 16:49:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 011E51C08F; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3151C08F for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so2320973wwj.10 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:48:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=4vjx2CahKRkwBlawhbUjbOhBNiR5dqOF6HR75V2cmW0=; b=u3Bsny2XZF+jlbcj8EFqQuppu/cGrJ2w6ztyJpFoWe+TnWwc4H8BCB8YRfOx86oCZc R8rvLQVmLnyYUW1BnpqnB5sw6qvp2rBEpdzIl1TQ6Hww7qtKl/BVTfLusD6xAnb29rNq P7dQB3cnKuTLm/rkM3eTp+Sq7mOP5RBHoajBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=JT2IRnNs9JOAIvuNp8BeG/mGs7ljelndCMV4I4Z0anv6x2mibpqE66zSu5qDmWoRVL yBMYyNzcAeAY3yHBGMoI1p1X2S+gdrqPe39iDEzojff6cc4N4ZGZbAQ2cilS5osDNw4l kPnYT07/5wvxg8kZX4AqngtdG2CTavrrJhwBA= Received: by 10.216.231.198 with SMTP id l48mr3329878weq.54.1307206088961; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-183-215.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.183.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5sm1401936weq.33.2011.06.04.09.48.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome? Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:47:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39-ck; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110604113509.GA4200@gaurahari.merseine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20110604113509.GA4200@gaurahari.merseine.nu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106041847.35094.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 5b1d79a24812a78ba62f414f1b45acdf Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > You say OS X is "good enough" > I say you've got some mighty low standards. My manager's predecessor's precedessor's precedessor had the same thing with SuSE and installed that goddamn piece of shit on 100+ boxes. Sure, it all looks neat after first install. Sybase ASE goes on and starts up real nice as do all sorts of other proprietary (and despoke) apps. Wait 6 months, try do a perfectly reasonable upgrade. Something easy like, say syslog-ng-1.6 to syslog-ng-3.x. Carnage. There's a certain mentality that goes with these New! Improved! Shiny! OSes and their magic sauce special apps. They only work if you use it exactly as the vendors thinks - which is necessarily an extremely narrow view. /etc ain't broke, I can't understand why SuSE insists on fixing it -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com