From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QSucJ-0003yl-B3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 17:26:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23F3F1C0AF; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9F21C0AF for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1531706gxk.40 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:25:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=TOr+5Vz+boyxW2dbO0lWuvMB4o9Pc4uLxIfTKputrsk=; b=ud537bi8QkBGcb3QBBecdkkEsk/HNpQnDpEcqWSKmtfBVCrj25tylVQfZLPNZZcAO1 fK88waNoCzE3O3x5X+/3U1MdjZrkSFccKxBy/C39K5yCeDyF3/H+m34r9OmIBgqxXobu XttKnzssGtXfR3k5C5X56Na1/tZ06fDwsAU8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Mi+cE/XqwVCXlt1P+ZyZUMMxWfc7xNN6ay8d5YrvbydXq0JSPj3b8nrfFrqyvjYJVg q4roCxAkaF6J2WqUb+0k7VdXzkS68NszRQbgxSmKL2ahSmwGrsDwQ6To2UGSpfCpA+WH IoZEU5SpdF919TIZWh/4jGHh7w1KyXGRkrz+8= Received: by 10.236.76.194 with SMTP id b42mr3882108yhe.446.1307208303378; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaurahari.merseine.nu (adsl-72-152-83-64.asm.bellsouth.net [72.152.83.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c63sm2147563yhe.60.2011.06.04.10.25.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:25:00 -0400 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome? Message-ID: <20110604172500.GA23349@gaurahari.merseine.nu> References: <20110604113509.GA4200@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <201106041847.35094.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201106041847.35094.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 94c2aa352425c3eefffa9f24852c728d On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 06:47:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi di= d opine=20 > thusly: >=20 > > You say OS X is "good enough" > > I say you've got some mighty low standards. >=20 > My manager's predecessor's precedessor's precedessor had the same thing= with=20 > SuSE and installed that goddamn piece of shit on 100+ boxes. >=20 > Sure, it all looks neat after first install. Sybase ASE goes on and sta= rts up=20 > real nice as do all sorts of other proprietary (and despoke) apps. Wait= 6=20 > months, try do a perfectly reasonable upgrade. Something easy like, say= =20 > syslog-ng-1.6 to syslog-ng-3.x. Carnage. >=20 > There's a certain mentality that goes with these New! Improved! Shiny! = OSes=20 > and their magic sauce special apps. They only work if you use it exactl= y as=20 > the vendors thinks - which is necessarily an extremely narrow view. >=20 > /etc ain't broke, I can't understand why SuSE insists on fixing it >=20 It's the desire to create something only you can fix, so you get users=20 over a barrel. Windows mentality... --=20 caveat utilitor =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2= =9D=A4=20