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From: "Stéphane Guedon" <stephane@22decembre.eu>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] autofs
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:10:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201106041710.45845.stephane@22decembre.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1307148012.9608.48.camel@rattus>

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On Saturday 04 June 2011 02:40:12 William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 14:57 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
> > Am 03.06.2011 14:25, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:18 on Friday 03 June 2011, Volker
> > > Armin
> > > 
> > > Hemmann did opine thusly:
> > >> On Friday 03 June 2011 13:37:54 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > >>> On Friday 03 June 2011 12:55:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 12:44 on Friday 03 June 2011,
> > >>>> Stéphane Guedon
> > 
> > >>>> did opine thusly:
> > [...]
> > 
> > >>>> The point is that NFS was not designed with laptops and other
> > >>>> devices that can be disconnected in mind. It was designed for
> > >>>> secure LANs that do not change much, and laptops present issues
> > >>>> that are not easy to solve.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > >>> Nfs hasn't been designed for laptop, it's ok. But, appart from coda
> > >>> (which has a file size limit of 1 giga, so, useless in home
> > >>> networking), I know nothing that is fit for network file-sharing for
> > >>> laptop (the laptop isn't the server of course).
> > >>> 
> > >>> I search a solution for that since years !
> > >> 
> > >> samba?
> > > 
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > Samba works nicely for ad-hoc connections, the kind of thing Windows
> > > clients would do. And it's a lot more tolerant of connections going
> > > away than NFS.
> > 
> > I always was under the impression that NFS is more fault-tolerant on the
> > network because of its usage of stateless UDP connections whereas CIFS
> > usually freezes when the connection is lost. In the end, both issue an
> > IO error, usually crashing an unprepared application. So, in which
> > regard performs CIFS better with interrupted connections?
> > 
> > That being said, I always use NFS over TCP because of performance issues
> > with UDP and wireless LAN.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Florian Philipp
> 
> No, its ok in a fixed network but you get wierd issues like clients
> hanging on shutdown because the NFS server goes away first, and its an
> administrative pita when it stops working - could be firewall, something
> missed in a new kernel etc.
> 
> Ive been using it for mythtv and diskless systems (NFS over TCP) for
> quite awhile and its a fight every few months to find out why host x
> syuddenly doesnt want to play.  But otherwise works well use wise in a
> controlled environment.
> 
> Laptops are a whole different matter though - you might be better off
> side stepping if its only looking at media by looking into streaming
> rather than storage mapping.  Otherwise, Samba is probably the next
> best.
> 
> BillK

In home network, you share many types of files ! The first I think is DVD iso, 
which is huge (too large to go through coda) and not streamable... (but I 
admit it's not the best exemple !)

You share also documents (tax papers scans, ilness and doctors 
certificates...). And I share first of all Portage tree and distfiles !

Medias can be streamed, but not that !

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-04 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-03 10:44 [gentoo-user] autofs Stéphane Guedon
2011-06-03 10:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-06-03 11:37   ` Stéphane Guedon
2011-06-03 12:18     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-06-03 12:25       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-06-03 12:57         ` Florian Philipp
2011-06-03 15:06           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-06-04  0:40           ` William Kenworthy
2011-06-04 15:10             ` Stéphane Guedon [this message]
2011-06-04 21:11               ` Stroller
2011-06-05  9:13                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-06-03 12:18 ` pk

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