From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-123656-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QScHG-0002P6-45 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:51:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 054841C18E; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9271C18E for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1916187wwj.10 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=I4R7yDxfUH5g3Kph22DZGXtyokFUUFclOTnX2IFdaa0=; b=b1rrmSqTBvn/dbDlvAPawldAtK5kK7tkPLQtstttbtMoGtvFgbH116tWtLN2yMgu0w VP2LMCmzl+rIefo4fhrlBloxism33ReFvx62o2QO0IWLbDVf58yeigXYqRZU3hStChTZ iEtAXSp8DjdM4lu/ZvBlbyG+AiZsPNgoc3nlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=ol2MDP6qdo3ShrgO//KQYkuWD1CbGXexxQn0hP/fX4YhiBk8/lnEZeIh8eaaRnwTEz cGzzHk0KcvDu9+vgvvzB47Ec0zHBv2YWQGUxIDvvf3il0e+bxxJjwvSxnNOeW+WSCSY1 Y9kEiGSABjuX8n4PHyhE8zUDkm6IbkRD7cFr8= Received: by 10.216.81.203 with SMTP id m53mr6022wee.9.1307137803829; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4sm1061302weg.36.2011.06.03.14.50.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:50:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo-r6; KDE/4.6.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <gZgBl-1Pw-37@gated-at.bofh.it> <20110603162231.GA30508@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <201106032207.37178.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201106032207.37178.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1483781.l4Z6jLmzdl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106032250.41458.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 7091e57d55a36bbb9a10ae66b7b57591 --nextPart1483781.l4Z6jLmzdl Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 03 Jun 2011 21:07:36 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:22 on Friday 03 June 2011, Indi did > opine >=20 > thusly: > > > > Neither. Adobe is utterly incompetent and apathetic, google is evil > > > > and wants to sell ad space for h3rb41 v14gr4 in your brain. > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Flash is a necessary evil for a lot of us, chrome(ium) is not. > > >=20 > > > I think of it more a case of there being no viable alternative to > > > Flash[1] whereas Chrom{e,ium} is just one more browser amongst many. > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I use Flash myself even though I hate the way it performs. > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > [1] There are flash alternatives, but by and large only support out of > > > date features, so they are not really "viable". > >=20 > > Agreed. I do wish we'd get something open and reasonably well coded to > > replace flash,=20 I do hope that html5 will do away with it altogether. > > but I think perhaps the biggest reason for the success of > > flash is its sneakiness in tracking users and ability to enforce DRM. B= ig > > Business just loves that sort of thing. Thankfully, rtmpdump and friends do away with such issues. =20 > Compare skype. Someone just reverse-engineered critical bits of v1.4, I'll > bet money that Skype's (now MS) response will be to tweak the app so that > any open-source implementation gets no response from Skype infrastructure > when used. Same possibility of sneaky shit going on under the surface. I'm looking forward to using it - especially if it will allow me to stop Sk= ype=20 using my machine (and bandwidth) as a proxy node. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1483781.l4Z6jLmzdl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk3pVzEACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZpAQCgtE7oS3zfgSaliHIG5b/B2fSv BtEAni1jyVSrGW/tqz6v8umrQ8o2dJGV =T/IB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1483781.l4Z6jLmzdl--