From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QSagh-000106-1s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:09:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A8C31C006; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 20:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508661C006 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2011 20:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1848762wwj.10 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:08:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=KSkUkQFY/OqtlGjkmyzqJ3UDGMxXPHGu93sU/8V7yM0=; b=lfAyBjsxNaq8FAsJP0m+ZASJMkpBv6m5N7ZgNc82RwlK+mZFyIQhNfHnUNzMhraGQs bTiJY7hQ01pSvrIRvo2ze9rNX5rwsHfLaRIb7bZv/e3OwVqV1D0/BMzprzZNeEAGcclT n0Cqy7aS3YwBtW2C3iFDPmtd7FkQgDCNmjDJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=cqBz+VhwB8MjlKIl7mS++Z/+0WV0oLlN4gcxrYQCJ2A/nK7Y5J2iKtpPGwg9fpG+mi q/HDJkphmQMQnSluO3iecbadb68iI9Vytv5gSNCR+UWE8PiplM3KehfKly8poYzLAjyw v/1NGHlmOpOSHz5T50m4w36bdQ2eNU1eWFgi8= Received: by 10.216.143.134 with SMTP id l6mr7696787wej.2.1307131700560; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-183-215.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.183.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f60sm1027159wef.13.2011.06.03.13.08.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 22:07:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39-ck; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110603162231.GA30508@gaurahari.merseine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20110603162231.GA30508@gaurahari.merseine.nu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106032207.37178.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 2afd1e773319ee377e4b62acd966ae0e Apparently, though unproven, at 18:22 on Friday 03 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > > > Neither. Adobe is utterly incompetent and apathetic, google is evil > > > and wants to sell ad space for h3rb41 v14gr4 in your brain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Flash is a necessary evil for a lot of us, chrome(ium) is not. > > > > > > > > I think of it more a case of there being no viable alternative to > > Flash[1] whereas Chrom{e,ium} is just one more browser amongst many. > > > > > > > > I use Flash myself even though I hate the way it performs. > > > > > > > > [1] There are flash alternatives, but by and large only support out of > > date features, so they are not really "viable". > > > > > > Agreed. I do wish we'd get something open and reasonably well coded to > replace flash, but I think perhaps the biggest reason for the success of > flash is its sneakiness in tracking users and ability to enforce DRM. Big > Business just loves that sort of thing. Compare skype. Someone just reverse-engineered critical bits of v1.4, I'll bet money that Skype's (now MS) response will be to tweak the app so that any open-source implementation gets no response from Skype infrastructure when used. Same possibility of sneaky shit going on under the surface. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com