From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QPSXp-0003Ga-MW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 26 May 2011 04:51:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3ED91C001; Thu, 26 May 2011 04:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C3F1C001 for ; Thu, 26 May 2011 04:50:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0GAFPb3U1MCrfd/2dsb2JhbAAwmASOBXmIcLxKhhwElHuGVYQM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,270,1304308800"; d="scan'208";a="114691437" Received: from 76-10-183-221.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([76.10.183.221]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with SMTP; 26 May 2011 00:50:11 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 26 May 2011 00:50:14 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 00:50:14 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5 Message-ID: <20110526045014.GB19404@waltdnes.org> References: <20110525124648.GA29507@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <1971179.7VIGr59rC5@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1971179.7VIGr59rC5@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0416e248fc79850af092f17738fb83d5 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:13:41PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > On Wednesday 25 May 2011 08:46:48 Indi wrote: > and have you ever heard of 'code reuse' or 'modularity'? > > It seems - no. > > Because KDE itself might be huge. But once loaded the apps are pretty small - > because they reuse code. kmail does not have its own html engine. It does not > matter where you type your text etc pp. Sorta like Internet Explorer in Windows. It "loads" a lot faster and lighter than Firefox or Opera. That's because ie.exe is merely a "front end" to a bunch of libraries that are loaded at boot time, which contributes to the boot process taking do long. Starting ie.exe takes hardly any time, because 90% of the app is already loaded. > Overall KDE uses LESS ram then most 'lightweight' solutions. Because > xterm&abiword&some odd pager&thunderbird don't look so good anymore. > > This gem is a couple of years old, but still a worthy read: > > http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html > > > Read it. Seriously. I don't know how good "exmap" is, but my personal experience is quite different. Between Fall 1999 and Summer 2007 I had a Dell Dimension with a 450 mhz PIII and 128 megs of *SYSTEM RAM* (no not the video card). It was actually quite usable to the very end, with Blackbox WM, and running a few apps. Meanwhile, KDE (and GNOME for that matter) would take forever to load and make the system crawl after that, even with 1 or 2 apps loaded. -- Walter Dnes