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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Swap performance
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:03:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105252203.44570.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3411637.6h55QLqd4n@localhost>

Apparently, though unproven, at 18:58 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Volker Armin 
Hemmann did opine thusly:

> On Wednesday 25 May 2011 10:31:19 Paul Hartman wrote:
> > When I move the swap to a slow SD card instead (2MB/sec transfer
> > rate), even in that slow device, swapoff on the eMMC swap partition
> > with ~500M in-use takes about 2 or 3 minutes at most with the data
> > being swapped slowly into the SD card.
> > 
> > So I think in your case it should be much faster than that!
> 
> you are comparing apples with oranges (harddisks with moving arms with
> solid state devices).
> 
> Do yourself a favour. Look up how long a harddisk needs to position its
> head.
> 
> Now you can calculate how many times a second a harddisk can position its
> head.
> 
> Now remember: swap is stupid, so lots and lots of head movement needed (and
> a cash flush is running too - so even more movements to write all that
> crap to disk),
> 
> The result: the whole mess is fscking slow.
> 
> You can have a nice fat raid with nice and fast harddisks - if you try to
> stream to a 15 year old DLT drive with 5/10mb/sec speed the dlt drive will
> constantly rewind - because harddisks suck when they have to seek. And swap
> (just like a backup) = lots and lots and lots of seeks.

That reminds me of how SSDs ought to be much faster than hard disks.

But every time I use my Acer netbook (8G SSD) I curse and swear and commit 
random acts of violence - that first gen SSD controller is the worst possible 
thing to ever hit computers. I swear the 4G SDHC expansion card is leaps 
faster....

(completely OT, I know. I'll keep quiet now.)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-25 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-25 14:20 [gentoo-user] Swap performance Alex Schuster
2011-05-25 15:31 ` Paul Hartman
2011-05-25 16:58   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-05-25 19:34     ` Paul Hartman
2011-05-25 20:03     ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2011-05-25 20:38       ` Alex Schuster
2011-05-25 22:40   ` Alex Schuster
2011-05-26 16:30     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-05-25 16:49 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-26 20:49   ` Mick
2011-05-25 16:53 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-05-25 20:07   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-26 13:32     ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-05-25 22:18   ` Alex Schuster
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-26 17:26 Alex Schuster

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