[gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

Hello,

I am interested in usb support within virtualbox guests. The version I
am currently using does not offer it:

   virtualbox-3.2.12-r4

would the bin package

  virtualbox-bin- 3.2.12-r1

has it?  Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
non-bin packages?

Thanks,

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Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:53:26 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote:

> Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
> non-bin packages?

Yes.


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Neil Bothwick

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
we created them." (Albert Einstein)

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:53:26 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
>
>> Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
>> non-bin packages?
>
> Yes.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
> we created them." (Albert Einstein)
>

Would you know whether version >=4.0.x will no longer have a bin
distribution? Looking at what is available on my system I still see a
bin split:


/usr/portage/app-emulation/virtualbox-bin/virtualbox-bin-4.0.6-r1.ebuild


Thanks,

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Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Valmor de Almeida <val.gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am interested in usb support within virtualbox guests. The version I
> am currently using does not offer it:
>
>   virtualbox-3.2.12-r4
>
> would the bin package
>
>  virtualbox-bin- 3.2.12-r1
>
> has it?  Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
> non-bin packages?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Valmor
>
>

Valmor,
   Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
you need. It does seem to be in portage but I've not used it myself.

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Valmor,
>   Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
> you need. It does seem to be in portage but I've not used it myself.
>
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>
> HTH,
> Mark
>
>
Mark,

I see it in portage

/usr/portage/app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle/virtualbox-extpack-oracle-4.0.6.ebuild

Will give it a try.

Thanks,

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Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

On 05/25/2011 12:15 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Valmor,
>>   Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
>> you need. It does seem to be in portage but I've not used it myself.
>>
>> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>>
>> HTH,
>> Mark
>>
>>
> Mark,
> 
> I see it in portage
> 
> /usr/portage/app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle/virtualbox-extpack-oracle-4.0.6.ebuild
> 
> Will give it a try.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Valmor

For the record.

Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
vbox (source).

All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
problem I am facing now is that the Windows7 virtual machine tries to
install drivers for the USB devices and it fails. Not sure what is going
on... It may be an issue with USB 1.0 versus 2.0?


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Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Valmor de Almeida <val.gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/25/2011 12:15 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Valmor,
>>>   Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
>>> you need. It does seem to be in portage but I've not used it myself.
>>>
>>> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I see it in portage
>>
>> /usr/portage/app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle/virtualbox-extpack-oracle-4.0.6.ebuild
>>
>> Will give it a try.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Valmor
>
> For the record.
>
> Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
> vbox (source).
>
> All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
> problem I am facing now is that the Windows7 virtual machine tries to
> install drivers for the USB devices and it fails. Not sure what is going
> on... It may be an issue with USB 1.0 versus 2.0?
>
>
> --
> Valmor

Hi Valmor,
   Good to know it at least gets you 1 step further in the right direction.

   As for Win 7 installing USB drivers is there an option to not
install it automatically and then you go look for the right driver and
install it by hand?

   One other possibility might be that either Linux or another VM is
claiming the device and hence it's not responding correctly to the
driver install. i typically run 3 VMs every day - 2 VMPLayer/XP and 1
virtualbox/Win 7. I've noted that I have to be a little careful to
ensure the VMs don't interfere with each other WRT USB devices.

   Good luck figuring it out. Please post back if you find interesting info.

Cheers,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> For the record.
>>
>> Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
>> vbox (source).
>>
>> All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
>> problem I am facing now is that the Windows7 virtual machine tries to
>> install drivers for the USB devices and it fails. Not sure what is going
>> on... It may be an issue with USB 1.0 versus 2.0?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Valmor
> 
> Hi Valmor,
>    Good to know it at least gets you 1 step further in the right direction.
> 
>    As for Win 7 installing USB drivers is there an option to not
> install it automatically and then you go look for the right driver and
> install it by hand?
> 
>    One other possibility might be that either Linux or another VM is
> claiming the device and hence it's not responding correctly to the
> driver install. i typically run 3 VMs every day - 2 VMPLayer/XP and 1
> virtualbox/Win 7. I've noted that I have to be a little careful to
> ensure the VMs don't interfere with each other WRT USB devices.
> 
>    Good luck figuring it out. Please post back if you find interesting info.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 

I think you are in the right track as far as a race between host and
guest for claiming the device. It is not the driver installation that is
the problem. The driver is installed and Windows7 says it is the latest
driver. The problem is that at the end of the installation W7 tries to
mount/start the device and that is when things do not work. The status
of the device is listed as

This device cannot start. (Code 10)

There is quite a bit on the web on the "Code 10" error. Still
investigating...

fdisk -l   on the gentoo host lists the device if the guest is not
running. As soon as the guest boots, the device is not listed by fdisk
-l, this means that things are at least going in the right direction.
The vbox manual says that the device should be hidden from the host once
the guest gets a hold of it.



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Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

On 05/25/2011 07:45 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
> On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>>> For the record.
>>>
>>> Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
>>> vbox (source).
>>>
>>> All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
>>> problem I am facing now is that the Windows7 virtual machine tries to
>>> install drivers for the USB devices and it fails. Not sure what is going
>>> on... It may be an issue with USB 1.0 versus 2.0?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Valmor
>>
>> Hi Valmor,
>>    Good to know it at least gets you 1 step further in the right direction.
>>
>>    As for Win 7 installing USB drivers is there an option to not
>> install it automatically and then you go look for the right driver and
>> install it by hand?
>>
>>    One other possibility might be that either Linux or another VM is
>> claiming the device and hence it's not responding correctly to the
>> driver install. i typically run 3 VMs every day - 2 VMPLayer/XP and 1
>> virtualbox/Win 7. I've noted that I have to be a little careful to
>> ensure the VMs don't interfere with each other WRT USB devices.
>>
>>    Good luck figuring it out. Please post back if you find interesting info.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
> 
> I think you are in the right track as far as a race between host and
> guest for claiming the device. It is not the driver installation that is
> the problem. The driver is installed and Windows7 says it is the latest
> driver. The problem is that at the end of the installation W7 tries to
> mount/start the device and that is when things do not work. The status
> of the device is listed as
> 
> This device cannot start. (Code 10)
> 
> There is quite a bit on the web on the "Code 10" error. Still
> investigating...
> 
> fdisk -l   on the gentoo host lists the device if the guest is not
> running. As soon as the guest boots, the device is not listed by fdisk
> -l, this means that things are at least going in the right direction.
> The vbox manual says that the device should be hidden from the host once
> the guest gets a hold of it.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Valmor

After much digging, no success. Apparently it is an ongoing bug.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364717

When virtualbox is installed with the extension USE flag it pulls the
oracle extension package and the USB interface on the Virtualbox manager
is supposed to present a USB 2.0 box. This does not show up. Therefore
it appears that USB 2.0 devices can't start on the VM guest since only
USB 1.0 is enabled.

No luck so far but it is pretty close to be resolved. All USB devices I
have tried are identified by the Win7 VM guest and the drivers correctly
installed. It is only the startup that fails.

That is all folks.

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Valmor

[UNSOLVED]Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

[Valmor de Almeida]

On 05/26/2011 01:53 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
> On 05/25/2011 07:45 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
>> On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> For the record.
>>>>
>>>> Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
>>>> vbox (source).
>>>>
>>>> All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
>>>> problem I am facing now is that the Windows7 virtual machine tries to
>>>> install drivers for the USB devices and it fails. Not sure what is going
>>>> on... It may be an issue with USB 1.0 versus 2.0?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Valmor
>>>
>>> Hi Valmor,
>>>    Good to know it at least gets you 1 step further in the right direction.
>>>
>>>    As for Win 7 installing USB drivers is there an option to not
>>> install it automatically and then you go look for the right driver and
>>> install it by hand?
>>>
>>>    One other possibility might be that either Linux or another VM is
>>> claiming the device and hence it's not responding correctly to the
>>> driver install. i typically run 3 VMs every day - 2 VMPLayer/XP and 1
>>> virtualbox/Win 7. I've noted that I have to be a little careful to
>>> ensure the VMs don't interfere with each other WRT USB devices.
>>>
>>>    Good luck figuring it out. Please post back if you find interesting info.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
>> I think you are in the right track as far as a race between host and
>> guest for claiming the device. It is not the driver installation that is
>> the problem. The driver is installed and Windows7 says it is the latest
>> driver. The problem is that at the end of the installation W7 tries to
>> mount/start the device and that is when things do not work. The status
>> of the device is listed as
>>
>> This device cannot start. (Code 10)
>>
>> There is quite a bit on the web on the "Code 10" error. Still
>> investigating...
>>
>> fdisk -l   on the gentoo host lists the device if the guest is not
>> running. As soon as the guest boots, the device is not listed by fdisk
>> -l, this means that things are at least going in the right direction.
>> The vbox manual says that the device should be hidden from the host once
>> the guest gets a hold of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Valmor
> 
> After much digging, no success. Apparently it is an ongoing bug.
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364717
> 
> When virtualbox is installed with the extension USE flag it pulls the
> oracle extension package and the USB interface on the Virtualbox manager
> is supposed to present a USB 2.0 box. This does not show up. Therefore
> it appears that USB 2.0 devices can't start on the VM guest since only
> USB 1.0 is enabled.
> 
> No luck so far but it is pretty close to be resolved. All USB devices I
> have tried are identified by the Win7 VM guest and the drivers correctly
> installed. It is only the startup that fails.
> 
> That is all folks.
> 
> --
> Valmor

Those involved in dealing with the bug link above have concluded:

This bug can stay confirmed as it's quite obvious that USB-2 doesn't work:

So no USB-2 support on >=virtualbox-4.0.6 at the moment.

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Valmor