From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QPGQI-0004Bd-LP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 25 May 2011 15:55:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 928BB1C00C; Wed, 25 May 2011 15:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA321C00C for ; Wed, 25 May 2011 15:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm8 with SMTP id 8so4135131yxm.40 for ; Wed, 25 May 2011 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=F1d2lbDF9OjW3UM4PYDZokGwHt0K2+W/CowNmbsEM68=; b=YPM5POT7g0Q2C6PHh0B+new7iQTRRI9za0DnMI0KrEhw6sz32dGns9Msaxmj8YhhRz pKao1O8adsuhYzGgaOzrBljm+Ar6YgAX4BDn8fs86a40eXTSugcr1paCi38bWWM00nZU OOiRi+2WVetv5bsiHe06C4X5/XEdRDvE8Gqr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Qp6cKPW8aXBU99xAFffOLTQpZMEhQwl9mVfFrSWeQCCCKfG21uBVE/dk69tk2nClHe +KMsLqgmXLW2XykFbpK/NElXDWqftQkuBFc83iWomWDO5iQD3K30giLQjO/ZirGoBOUp b08Efp0uBhg7DE0iGfY9tCpE4gxBPngNJK8hU= Received: by 10.151.134.7 with SMTP id l7mr5298038ybn.126.1306338817806; Wed, 25 May 2011 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaurahari.merseine.nu (adsl-72-152-78-99.asm.bellsouth.net [72.152.78.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a5sm1014446yhj.21.2011.05.25.08.53.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 May 2011 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:53:35 -0400 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5 Message-ID: <20110525155334.GA4428@gaurahari.merseine.nu> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 8ef0a5a306dfa5ada1d11ccd8b1ce927 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Indi w= rote: > > For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us > > it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it? >=20 > If he was already using Qt4, it might not have seemed so bad. ;) I > think much of that list are from Qt4 and its dependencies. Other than > kdelibs, kde-env, kdepimlibs, oxygen-icons I don't see much generic > KDE stuff (not counting koffice since that's what he was installing). Last I tried it, you can't run much of that stuff without the whole "kdeinit" thing, which is a giant resource hog (relatively speaking, for those of us accustomed to running trim, fast, light=20 systems). That why I said it's become like an OS unto itself.=20 I remember when people used to carry on about bloaty GNUstep libs,=20 and I said "but those *are* small, fast, and light" and people=20 responded to me in the manner I've responded to kde people who say=20 that about kde. So it really is all quite relative... :) My standard is simple: it has to be able to work without a mouse,=20 and when I hit the keys, I want to see results *immediately* --=20 real results, not a "wait" dialog or spinny thing. --=20 caveat utilitor =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2= =9D=A4=20