From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QOGHp-0002po-4y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 21:34:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C886B1C025; Sun, 22 May 2011 21:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762D71C025 for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 21:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so4923767wyi.40 for ; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=7kLYurQY9s0vZyLYR3MpIZS3CyyX3HU4z5Pe1qIy3bg=; b=Sk0/9C1OsiAS3mSbfgpaNafPfxf8OpCG7AGCqCCuWNFf+FBrJJMFmXo5LCVwWs3cWB WhAJ2voP9ZyfyiR87QGx8bxMCXDBgIHiBcz387XsOyWTmDO2UrmE/yY5MrLCj3/6uQS5 H8RWr3fw2gKFM6YITzSLddS6FarHt9PfRWufU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=UOaPJ9OVSMTP6wMKoWF/PG4GCn46HpsUNzobzU3Dpxaf2KLvNZluJvxXtlJr7LzZNL TNmGO3SSj4iXQ3mhm48+ceHqXBkF2k5qJsjq27ihdTXVu2dSyazwKNSmjxDfABfftOEo rzyjak+LcAupXlA1e7jeoaPg0ZgNV+lU2qeFA= Received: by 10.216.221.67 with SMTP id q45mr1534345wep.97.1306099950653; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-114-244.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.114.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h11sm3683914wbc.9.2011.05.22.14.32.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 May 2011 14:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [HEADSUP] libreoffice versus bison-2.5 Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 23:31:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38-ck-r1; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110522182614.GA8663@gaurahari.merseine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20110522182614.GA8663@gaurahari.merseine.nu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105222331.41132.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 86865a872a8f6479fbde476b82799e00 Apparently, though unproven, at 20:26 on Sunday 22 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 08:10:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Sunday 22 May 2011, Indi did > > opine > > > > thusly: > > > It's unfortunate that we don't have small, fast, light, standalone > > > programs to deal with the formats of word, excel, powerpoint, etc but > > > if we did odds are most people would shun them for a big, bloaty > > > office suite anyway. Personally, I'd love it if I could open and edit > > > those office formats in vim... > > > > What makes you think they don't *already* exist? > > The fact that none of your examples fit the bill. s/the/my/ there you go. Fixed that little oversight you made there. > > > Small, fast, light, standalone: yeah, they are all there. > > Your definition of "small, fast, and light" strikes me as most > peculiar. Anything that requires a full-bloat DE (or enoough of its libs > it might as well do so) is not "standalone" by any definition, and is > unlikely to be "small, fast, and light". I know all things are relative, > but be real. No, I think you need to get real. It's 2011, what did you expect? Any such project as a small light fast office suite has to include Gnome and/or KDE support to some degree. Without it, it's just dead in the water. And it's of sufficient complexity that scratch one's itch is unlikely to go anywhere - it's not a one person project. If we have to discuss this logically, you are going to have to define your terms. What are your requirements? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com