[gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:

> What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating
> to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that
> I recognize on any of my machines.

I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but 
after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find 
Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera, 
Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked 
at me when asked to stream audio. 

I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now 
the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling 
desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause 
lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash or 
something, because I do like to listen to the radio.

This is an amd64 box. I have only:

$ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:
> > What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating
> > to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that
> > I recognize on any of my machines.
> 
> I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but
> after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find
> Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera,
> Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked
> at me when asked to stream audio.
> 
> I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now
> the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling
> desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause
> lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash
> or something, because I do like to listen to the radio.
> 
> This is an amd64 box. I have only:
> 
> $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
> ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1

I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers.
When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't 
figured out how to do that properly yet....

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Joost Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:
>> > What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating
>> > to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no problem that
>> > I recognize on any of my machines.
>>
>> I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but
>> after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find
>> Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera,
>> Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked
>> at me when asked to stream audio.
>>
>> I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times and now
>> the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups when cycling
>> desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does sometimes cause
>> lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and substituting gnash
>> or something, because I do like to listen to the radio.
>>
>> This is an amd64 box. I have only:
>>
>> $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
>> ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1
>
> I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers.
> When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't
> figured out how to do that properly yet....
>
> --
> Joost

I do use the ~amd64 nvidia-driver & flash here and haven't seen any
problems, although I don't make a lot of use of Flash in Linux but
rather do most media watching in a Win XP VM.

- Mark

mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -Ic flash
[I] www-plugins/adobe-flash (10.3.181.14-r1@05/14/11): Adobe Flash Player
mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -Ic nvidia
[I] dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk (3.2@01/31/11): NVIDIA CUDA Software
Development Kit
[I] dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit (3.2@01/31/11): NVIDIA CUDA Toolkit
[I] media-video/nvidia-settings (260.19.29@01/26/11): NVIDIA Linux X11
Settings Utility
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (270.41.06@05/11/11): NVIDIA X11 driver
and GLX libraries
Found 4 matches.
mark@c2stable ~ $

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 18 May 2011 19:05:28 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since
> > > updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X but I see no
> > > problem that I recognize on any of my machines.
> > 
> > I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward,
> > but after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't
> > find Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried
> > Opera, Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat
> > and looked at me when asked to stream audio.
> > 
> > I tried re-merging adobe-flash and nspluginwrapper a couple of times
> > and now the audio streaming runs, but I'm suffering random lockups
> > when cycling desktops, and I think I remember reading that Flash does
> > sometimes cause lockups. I'm thinking of removing everything flash and
> > substituting gnash or something, because I do like to listen to the
> > radio.
> > 
> > This is an amd64 box. I have only:
> > 
> > $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords
> > ~app-office/libreoffice-3.3.1
> 
> I believe these may be related to having the oficial nvidia drivers.
> When having those, it wants to use hardware acceleration and adobe hasn't
> figured out how to do that properly yet....

I realised a second after clicking Send that I hadn't said I'm using the 
nouveau driver. I don't have nvidia-drivers installed.

So it isn't that.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Adam Carter]

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>
> I upgraded to openrc 10 days ago and didn't notice anything untoward, but
> after a few days Firefox 3.6.17 started reporting that it couldn't find
> Flash. (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) I tried Opera,
> Chrome and Seamonkey, and they either said the same or just sat and looked
> at me when asked to stream audio.
>

I'm amd64 too, but run ~amd64 for flash and Firefox. 10.2 was a real piece
of crap, but 10.3 has just hit portage and it seems fine so far.

On a related note, who's using gnash (which is in portage), or lightspark
(in portage but masked)? Are they drop in replacements for flash? As they're
source I imagine they may be a better alternative for amd64 than the 32 bit
adobe player.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 19 May 2011 01:23:10 Adam Carter wrote:

> 10.2 was a real piece of crap, but 10.3 has just hit portage and it seems
> fine so far.

Ah, thanks. I've just installed that version and will see how it goes.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Stroller]

On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.) 

Why do you bother at all, then?

Use get_iplayer:
   http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
> On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
> 
> Why do you bother at all, then?
> 
> Use get_iplayer:
>    http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git

I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Stroller]

On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
>> On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
>> 
>> Why do you bother at all, then?
>> 
>> Use get_iplayer:
>>   http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
> 
> I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.

It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but that's where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their SWF validation URL and stuff like this. 

get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job to run `--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it becomes really simple just to queue a new show for download.

I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I do want to do something different.

Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest quality formats, output directory &c.
E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge  --prefs-add && get_iplayer --prefs-show`

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Mick]

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On Thursday 19 May 2011 04:56:42 Stroller wrote:
> On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
> >> On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >>> ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
> >> 
> >> Why do you bother at all, then?
> >> 
> >> Use get_iplayer:
> >>   http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
> > 
> > I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.
> 
> It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but that's
> where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their SWF
> validation URL and stuff like this.
> 
> get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job to
> run `--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it becomes
> really simple just to queue a new show for download.
> 
> I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I do
> want to do something different.
> 
> Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest quality
> formats, output directory &c. E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge  --prefs-add &&
> get_iplayer --prefs-show`

I see they have a cgi now ... how is that supposed to work?

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Mick]

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On Thursday 19 May 2011 23:03:10 Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 19 May 2011 04:56:42 Stroller wrote:
> > On 19/5/2011, at 2:41am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
> > >> On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > >>> ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
> > >> 
> > >> Why do you bother at all, then?
> > >> 
> > >> Use get_iplayer:
> > >>   http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
> > > 
> > > I'd never heard of it, that's why. Many thanks for the pointer.
> > 
> > It's definitely worth joining the mailing list. It's low-volume, but
> > that's where you'll discover updates. The BBC periodically change their
> > SWF validation URL and stuff like this.
> > 
> > get_iplayer is a bit obscenely complicated, but once you set a cron job
> > to run `--pvr-queue` and daily email delivery of new programmes it
> > becomes really simple just to queue a new show for download.
> > 
> > I tend to use things like `get_iplayer --longhelp | grep search` when I
> > do want to do something different.
> > 
> > Make sure you use `--prefs-add` to ensure prioritisation of highest
> > quality formats, output directory &c. E.G.: `get_iplayer --nopurge 
> > --prefs-add && get_iplayer --prefs-show`
> 
> I see they have a cgi now ... how is that supposed to work?

Ah! Found it a second later:

http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/blob/a3ab6296f6952d2528252313fc9730026f42759c:/README-
get_iplayer.cgi.txt
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

[Stroller]

On 19/5/2011, at 11:05pm, Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 19 May 2011 23:03:10 Mick wrote:
>> 
>>>> On Thursday 19 May 2011 02:28:21 Stroller wrote:
>>>>> On 18/5/2011, at 5:57pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>>>>> ... (I only use Flash for the BBC I-Player service.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why do you bother at all, then?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Use get_iplayer:
>>>>>  http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git
>>>> 
>> ...
>> I see they have a cgi now ... how is that supposed to work?
> 
> Ah! Found it a second later:
> 
> http://git.infradead.org/get_iplayer.git/blob/a3ab6296f6952d2528252313fc9730026f42759c:/README-
> get_iplayer.cgi.txt

I wouldn't rely on it being supported. 

You should certainly demonstrate the problem on the command-line using the regular get_iplayer before reporting it to the mailing list.

Stroller.