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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 00:04:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105150004.08815.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110514212126.GA4824@linux1>

Apparently, though unproven, at 23:21 on Saturday 14 May 2011, William Hubbs 
did opine thusly:

> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:36:29AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
> > There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of
> > packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precisely what
> > USE you want it via the "-*" flag. But be VERY careful if you are
> > going to use it. A USE variable set in /etc/make.conf starting with it
> > 
> >   USE="-* X vim ..."
> > 
> > will use nothing but those variables (plus the package specific ones
> > specified in /etc/portage). There are certain flags that you most
> > likely don't want to turn off: cxx, posix, and threads for example.
> > 
> > It is a powerful tool; which means you can also seriously hurt
> > yourself from it.
> 
> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS.
> 
> It turns off all use flags set in profiles as well as use flag defaults
> set in ebuilds.
> 
> The safer way, and the way I would recommend, is to use something like
> euse from gentoolkit to figure out which flags are on and turn off the
> ones you do not want in make.conf instead of turning off everything and
> trying to turn back on the ones you do want.


Agreed.

"emerge --info | grep USE" reveals what an enormous task it is to fix USE=-*. 
Not only an enormous task but a fruitless one too - most of the flags will 
just get re-enabled!

Most people advocating this on list threads and forums, want a minimal system 
without all the KDE/Gnome/etc bloat. The correct way to do that is to use a 
minimal profile then examine the now much smaller emerge --info and disabled 
the few remiaining USE flags one does not want.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-14 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <gSbwK-o0-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14  2:35 ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) Indi
2011-05-14  3:19   ` Alex Schuster
2011-05-14  4:04     ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14  3:28   ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14  6:25     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14  9:38       ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 10:21         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 11:52           ` Mick
2011-05-14 13:20             ` Felix Miata
2011-05-16  0:25               ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-05-16  2:18               ` [gentoo-user] " Felix Miata
2011-05-16  2:44                 ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (part solved) Felix Miata
2011-05-16  2:54                 ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!) Felix Miata
2011-05-16  8:22                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-16 11:58                   ` Tanstaafl
2011-05-16 12:43                     ` JDM
2011-05-16 12:57                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-16 14:49                       ` Stroller
2011-05-14 14:06         ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) Willie Wong
2011-05-14 15:07           ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 15:36             ` Willie Wong
2011-05-14 21:21               ` William Hubbs
2011-05-14 22:04                 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2011-05-14 15:38             ` Mick
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     [not found] ` <gSsxA-3Nv-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <gSsxA-3Nv-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <gStaj-4G2-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 20:06       ` Indi
     [not found] ` <gSupI-6WX-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <gSupI-6WX-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <gSvc5-8jm-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 22:29       ` Indi
     [not found] <gSokj-514-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <gSokj-514-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <gSokj-514-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <gSokj-514-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <gSoki-514-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <gSotZ-5eQ-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 15:04           ` Indi
2011-05-14 15:19             ` Felix Miata
     [not found]         ` <gSpq2-6P9-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <gSpJo-7wa-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <gSsee-35S-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 19:06               ` Indi
2011-05-14 19:51                 ` Mick
2011-05-14 20:55                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-15 18:14                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-15 18:45                       ` Mick
2011-05-15 19:53                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-15 20:45                         ` Mick
2011-05-15 21:42                         ` Neil Bothwick
     [not found]             ` <gSu6m-6fC-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 21:09               ` Indi
2011-05-14 21:58                 ` Alan McKinnon
     [not found] <gSd5v-34B-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <gSd5v-34B-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <gSdRU-4pu-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <gSgwq-r5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 14:37       ` Indi
2011-05-14 14:48         ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 15:53         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 16:01           ` Indi
2011-05-14 18:51             ` Willie Wong
2011-05-14 20:49             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 22:54             ` Mike Edenfield
     [not found]       ` <gSjDZ-5zj-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <gSnRg-4mn-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <gSoNj-5Wj-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 15:45             ` Indi
2011-05-14  1:04 Felix Miata

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