From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QLLuV-0002QJ-Gc for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 May 2011 20:58:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 841881C07D; Sat, 14 May 2011 20:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6961C07D for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 20:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so3508176wwj.10 for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=a4LEeXMl8+FzKOWSmJcZiQlpQnwcIN6S1rQD+SsqBYw=; b=QUrCYpXSLHewrt5CAN656XPaOFQ4InaJfzGe42A8tQukLD1TsJsBh+wqWn0Y3mAMO5 XMleNRUD3P5AG+CKSmioPuU37SR71tHi+CA4BzVJQhaG2hhpvt3klDpHq6zSO/RAi+S2 b+YV/BuFfkXKAr1QlQTAMqy/b3+XNKgsQt6rk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=CB4qoZyW30Ya9K0EfvcSdQI06tuyVJZPoMehkhjykybfp9HBjQGZUhKQxwhZR8zRue gHYjGjBebhXHxHVYb1BTQ4sGkQKWF85SmPWo/YxeC1PFZ2T3KHOipzAFXzl6b1ltXlN8 MbUGBXoBcrMGafCU6YQrOa/bXt4NDu6BJcrM8= Received: by 10.216.136.89 with SMTP id v67mr2787991wei.47.1305406598477; Sat, 14 May 2011 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-114-244.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.114.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h39sm1783473wes.29.2011.05.14.13.56.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 14 May 2011 13:56:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:55:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38-ck-r1; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110514190618.GA3146@gaurahari> <201105142051.15905.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201105142051.15905.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105142255.49830.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 6c34efd606f044aa52fc42350cb2501a Apparently, though unproven, at 21:51 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: > > Well perhaps it's nitpicking, but I like my systems as lean as possible. > > I almost never emerge anything without -av options, just so I can say > > "no" and edit package.use if need be. It rarely causes more than a few > > extra seconds to be consumed, since my needs don't change terribly often. > > Depends on how one uses the system, I suppose... > > Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last KDE > upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes > (scanner, rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages and > libraries. Other flag changes may well have added packages that I didn't > need, but didn't have the time to go through the lot at the time. Is your emerge output colorized? USE flag changes show up in green and the status indicators inside [ebuild ] at the start of lines are in yellow. It's a huge gain being able to pick out the few new things that really stand out that way. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com