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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 20:51:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105142051.15905.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110514190618.GA3146@gaurahari>

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On Saturday 14 May 2011 20:06:18 Indi wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote:
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote:
> > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me...
> > > What makes the subtractive method better?
> > 
> > This is how I interpret Alan's message:
> > 
> > For certain flags when you enable it for a package you will have to
> > also enable it for its dependencies. So you'll have to chase down the
> > dependency tree if you enable a flag for a user package and several of
> > the libraries it uses need the flag too, which may end up requiring
> > doing several emerge --pretend cycles to sort out.
> > 
> > Whereas if you subtract functionality, you usually won't have to
> > change the libraries. (The corollary being that if you are going to
> > remove functionality from the libraries, you should do so by globally
> > removing the use flag, rather than on the package level.)
> 
> Well perhaps it's nitpicking, but I like my systems as lean as possible.
> I almost never emerge anything without -av options, just so I can say
> "no" and edit package.use if need be. It rarely causes more than a few
> extra seconds to be consumed, since my needs don't change terribly often.
> Depends on how one uses the system, I suppose...

Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last KDE 
upgrade.  I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes (scanner, 
rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages and libraries.  
Other flag changes may well have added packages that I didn't need, but didn't 
have the time to go through the lot at the time.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-14 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]         ` <gSotZ-5eQ-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 15:04           ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) Indi
2011-05-14 15:19             ` Felix Miata
     [not found]         ` <gSpq2-6P9-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <gSpJo-7wa-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2011-05-14 19:06               ` Indi
2011-05-14 19:51                 ` Mick [this message]
2011-05-14 20:55                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-15 18:14                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-15 18:45                       ` Mick
2011-05-15 19:53                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-15 20:45                         ` Mick
2011-05-15 21:42                         ` Neil Bothwick
     [not found]             ` <gSu6m-6fC-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 21:09               ` Indi
2011-05-14 21:58                 ` Alan McKinnon
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     [not found]               ` <gT8wO-7br-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-16 16:18                 ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) (Fixed!) Indi
     [not found]                   ` <20110516162126.GB8525@gaurahari>
2011-05-16 16:30                     ` Indi
2011-05-16 18:42                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-16 21:15                     ` Dale
2011-05-16 21:40                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-16 23:01                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-16 23:18                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-18  5:16                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-05-16 23:22                           ` Felix Miata
     [not found]             ` <gT7AK-5Bo-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]                   ` <gT7AK-5Bo-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                     ` <gTch4-56D-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-16 21:45                       ` Indi
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     [not found]     ` <gStaj-4G2-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 20:06       ` [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) Indi
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     [not found]     ` <gSvc5-8jm-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 22:29       ` Indi
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2011-05-14 14:37       ` Indi
2011-05-14 14:48         ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 15:53         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 16:01           ` Indi
2011-05-14 18:51             ` Willie Wong
2011-05-14 20:49             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 22:54             ` Mike Edenfield
     [not found]       ` <gSjDZ-5zj-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <gSnRg-4mn-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <gSoNj-5Wj-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14 15:45             ` Indi
     [not found] <gSbwK-o0-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-05-14  2:35 ` Indi
2011-05-14  3:19   ` Alex Schuster
2011-05-14  4:04     ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14  3:28   ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14  6:25     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14  9:38       ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 10:21         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 11:52           ` Mick
2011-05-14 13:20             ` Felix Miata
2011-05-16  2:18               ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 14:06         ` Willie Wong
2011-05-14 15:07           ` Felix Miata
2011-05-14 15:36             ` Willie Wong
2011-05-14 21:21               ` William Hubbs
2011-05-14 22:04                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-14 15:38             ` Mick
2011-05-14  1:04 Felix Miata

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