From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QLKCO-0003zp-G1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 May 2011 19:08:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A0521C04E; Sat, 14 May 2011 19:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yi0-f53.google.com (mail-yi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3893B1C04E for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 19:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yia25 with SMTP id 25so1453234yia.40 for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 12:06:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=9nCfYbefdSVT5+7CGMZNrLqiAXEHFDVkyws/513cBDw=; b=oIMTtjNvkw7qWdJ1ZHLng+DaZLDovPxsqbxNAx40QQo5eUqdb7zKFfmpPbudbmKReF NwYpXLa/e4GanISmEgfp+nK70aPwtN2DCIHeaHv3OobsUFsQxN8Mve75Dnt+0YXPj2CK m5p6soLy1EF2kEyYo9fllalTMITxzYPJjio8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=bNR9mx6AYM+o93xJhkWEfGYdTHYVcWs3glbV1ZBx0tQEv464sqKbm0gMEGT1ErDsf6 FVr+PAJ1fYPZE0pK0WbwkHScvh2nqYH8M2iZdJXY7nzz1ia0UahJ0E46HUvCNgVcsaKa ZnyH/QnCaVMAOj26k9tUG87z9VrtyzyOnp4/o= Received: by 10.236.26.41 with SMTP id b29mr2616807yha.425.1305399980699; Sat, 14 May 2011 12:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaurahari (adsl-72-152-86-200.asm.bellsouth.net [72.152.86.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d20sm2593937ang.43.2011.05.14.12.06.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 14 May 2011 12:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 15:06:18 -0400 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video) Message-ID: <20110514190618.GA3146@gaurahari> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 3d9b25f649eb8ddddba86e93eb266351 On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote: > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > Sounds like the old "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" to me... > > What makes the subtractive method better? > >=20 >=20 > This is how I interpret Alan's message: >=20 > For certain flags when you enable it for a package you will have to > also enable it for its dependencies. So you'll have to chase down the > dependency tree if you enable a flag for a user package and several of > the libraries it uses need the flag too, which may end up requiring > doing several emerge --pretend cycles to sort out. >=20 > Whereas if you subtract functionality, you usually won't have to > change the libraries. (The corollary being that if you are going to > remove functionality from the libraries, you should do so by globally > removing the use flag, rather than on the package level.) >=20 Well perhaps it's nitpicking, but I like my systems as lean as possible. I almost never emerge anything without -av options, just so I can say "no" and edit package.use if need be. It rarely causes more than a few=20 extra seconds to be consumed, since my needs don't change terribly often. Depends on how one uses the system, I suppose... --=20 caveat utilitor=20 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB=20