From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QKVw8-0003g0-A4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 May 2011 13:28:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D20E1C0C6; Thu, 12 May 2011 13:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEE71C0C6 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 13:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so1540985wwj.10 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 06:26:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=dZw0RU8eG5f/Tf1coMG3lZxJhyjdG8h1ZyE+uQJlGe8=; b=x5dScnyA5/bAm9hZhctQsJKzC5UN7ojcQo8K4DHDqQxaUTWlfIYqrSjI6LA28yXfP6 uuM76ewb4YJbGDqAzlFc8NnE8Pn+Ot2ol2b9IWcsxOfGZFPwUyxUu75GS3xdhMsGTViN x1xmq0X0R1M+JJ8G66ls3Ur/N0hsXguSDaxGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=QuiHO7LWXFKTeOG+eFkTFXXtizLRmRcZsuIurFiE1Au5w1l03ODPnAB4T1Up8rpdDa mXRJkP5cuLUHPAaSL1ODEjmsV2wTYaMZ65STUM6tePT0DpjtYnGfNrGZm6rXoHP81ZxK SVjz3Nce1+bab0tjh1dDjD/UoOdlALhsnfTfc= Received: by 10.216.237.65 with SMTP id x43mr201343weq.70.1305206808141; Thu, 12 May 2011 06:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (dustpuppy.is.co.za [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h39sm618807wes.5.2011.05.12.06.26.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 12 May 2011 06:26:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone? Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 15:25:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.38-ck; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110512125627.519370fb@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4DCBD875.2070209@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DCBD875.2070209@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105121525.55533.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 5a99f342cf3b93acae86d8c4cc0aed48 Apparently, though unproven, at 14:54 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > The pattern I see is that of selecting only changes that failed and > > implying they are the norm. > > > > Why not add other improvements that were so bad, like the switch from > > floppy disks to hard disks, or CDs to DVDs? Companies try to predict > > where the market should go so they can lead. No one gets it right all > > the time, the ones that survive are those that get it right often enough. > > The ones that are most likely to fail are those that never try to > > innovate in case someone doesn't like it. > > > > The important point is that KDE wanted something better, it's unfortunate > > that it took so much longer than planned, but it would have taken even > > longer if they had not tried. > > I just hope they also learned from their mistakes. Dropping KDE3 > support long before KDE4 was ready was a big one. That shouldn't be > repeated. They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say "nothing". It's not a question of "should", it's only a question of "Dale would prefer it if" -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com