From: Indi <thebeelzebubtrigger@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:51:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110512145132.GA32007@gaurahari> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gRF3Q-4mR-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:54:13 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
> > I just hope they also learned from their mistakes. Dropping KDE3
> > support long before KDE4 was ready was a big one. That shouldn't be
> > repeated.
>
> If it's as good as everyone says, what more support did it need? Did the
> KDE guys come knocking on your door to remove it, or do it remotely
> (Android anyone?), or did it just keep working?
>
That argument is probably valid when limiting the scope of the
discussion to gentoo, but the only use I ever had for kde3 was
for non-techie users who wouldn't know whether to poop or go
blind if they click on something and nothing happens (or the worng
thing happens). I had all but two on openSuse and the rest on Kubuntu
in the kde3 days, but kde3 is nowhere near as idiot-proof now on
either of those distros. I do not want to support non-techie users using
obscure, deprecated, unmaintained code for something as critical as
their DE! It's hard enough when everything works as advertised...
To be honest, I haven't quite worked up the courage to
put any users on gentoo, though it's become the only distro I feel
really good about using. If we had more uniform hardware it would
be a lot less daunting and I'd have probably done it already, but
the idea of having to manage so many individual builds is just
highly suboptimal.
> I'd say that you got excellent value for money, and a lot more support
> for an EOL product than you paid for. Yes, it would have been nice if they
> had waited until KDE4 was a little more polished before EOLing KDE3, but
> who would have paid for two dev teams?
>
Yes, but you should have heard the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the
non-tech users, it was like being surrounded by 8000 drunken harpies and
it lasted almost three months til they finally resigned themselves to
xfce. I will not go through that again.
--
caveat utilitor
♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
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2011-05-11 16:34 ` [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone? Indi
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2011-05-12 12:31 ` Indi
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2011-05-12 14:00 ` Indi
2011-05-12 14:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 14:33 ` Dale
2011-05-12 22:19 ` walt
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2011-05-12 14:51 ` Indi [this message]
2011-05-13 8:36 ` Neil Bothwick
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2011-05-12 22:44 ` Indi
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2011-05-12 15:06 ` Indi
2011-05-12 15:15 ` Dale
2011-05-12 20:55 ` Alan McKinnon
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2011-05-12 22:52 ` Indi
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2011-05-13 10:41 ` Indi
2011-05-13 11:33 ` Dale
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2011-05-12 22:46 ` Indi
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2011-05-12 21:19 ` Indi
2011-05-12 21:37 ` Alan McKinnon
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2011-05-11 15:06 ` Indi
2011-05-11 15:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-11 16:38 ` BRM
2011-05-12 0:40 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-12 11:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 11:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-12 12:54 ` Dale
2011-05-12 13:25 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 13:46 ` Dale
2011-05-12 14:18 ` JDM
2011-05-12 14:21 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-12 14:38 ` Dale
2011-05-12 21:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 21:44 ` Dale
2011-05-13 5:30 ` pk
2011-05-13 8:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-13 14:19 ` BRM
2011-05-14 7:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-17 11:55 ` BRM
2011-05-13 8:16 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-16 10:59 ` Tanstaafl
2011-05-12 15:21 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 14:19 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-13 17:57 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-13 19:50 ` Mick
2011-05-13 20:08 ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-05-13 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-10 21:55 [gentoo-user] " Dale
2011-05-10 22:41 ` Alex Schuster
2011-05-10 23:10 ` Dale
2011-05-10 23:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-10 23:50 ` Dale
2011-05-11 11:23 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 12:16 ` Marius Vaitiekunas
2011-05-11 12:33 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 14:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-11 16:37 ` William Hubbs
2011-05-11 12:33 ` Dale
2011-05-11 12:53 ` Marius Vaitiekunas
2011-05-11 13:22 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 13:40 ` Dale
2011-05-11 14:45 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 15:42 ` Dale
2011-05-11 15:53 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 16:02 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 16:54 ` Dale
2011-05-11 21:02 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-11 22:51 ` Dale
2011-05-12 2:50 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 9:21 ` Dale
2011-05-12 12:00 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 12:58 ` Dale
2011-05-11 21:14 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-11 23:31 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-05-12 2:53 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 17:06 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 17:20 ` Dale
2011-05-12 20:24 ` Mick
2011-05-12 21:42 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 22:57 ` Dale
2011-05-13 12:40 ` Stroller
2011-05-13 13:26 ` Dale
2011-05-13 19:27 ` Mick
2011-05-13 22:56 ` William Hubbs
2011-05-14 15:55 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 19:41 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-05-12 21:48 ` Stroller
2011-05-13 19:32 ` Mick
2011-05-14 16:01 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 20:16 ` che
2011-05-11 14:52 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-11 13:22 ` Philip Webb
2011-05-11 13:45 ` Dale
2011-05-11 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 8:33 ` Mick
2011-05-11 6:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Philip Webb
2011-05-11 6:55 ` Dale
2011-05-11 9:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-11 9:55 ` Dale
2011-05-11 10:10 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-11 21:32 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-05-12 4:21 ` James Wall
2011-05-12 9:24 ` Dale
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