From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QKWSl-0007iW-DJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 May 2011 14:02:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B7F81C045; Thu, 12 May 2011 14:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC61C045 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 14:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywl2 with SMTP id 2so694575ywl.40 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 07:00:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=CJxk46P7Hd5l1pXM0r42WxPJ7Xq1cFIb/AIX+EHU5Hc=; b=SzJdsHOE4H8we9kMXaP0pvmLEN4fMwC3nLQKM9dw3AgGEvwFzBE+a43WnuJSUAaJDd /Yu5QnY815kkU88eq5Wv4mlvYpIsuLkXktZaTp0f19AcwfOCONrF/fxQQU7TqHVZq+gC +83pNJGbfIMoqvDC3KLloq+QlG9UiuWVkyYYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ZmGbBW6LXKfva0Xn+GmdzAxxq0xrpLh6RrhcUs7G0iUbNW1Hi3arlmG5+o3XHZBAQX r+I2JfmvOsWRJbKmcilesdg0SMFPXpDI/1ag895i3H/zFZb20F3aOcQmtsB8sJtGjJJG vMjfDta1o1/eSrEltUPlKXSf19NB/KEXwg8iQ= Received: by 10.236.105.163 with SMTP id k23mr257882yhg.152.1305208834655; Thu, 12 May 2011 07:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaurahari (adsl-72-152-84-26.asm.bellsouth.net [72.152.84.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x64sm590137yhn.39.2011.05.12.07.00.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 12 May 2011 07:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:00:29 -0400 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone? Message-ID: <20110512140029.GA31187@gaurahari> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0bd0ca213c60226fac1a436b1c7576d1 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also yo= u owe > > support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is t= o say > > "nothing". > > > > It's not a question of "should", it's only a question of "Dale would = prefer it > > if" > > > > =20 >=20 > So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3=20 > being dropped, especially considering KDE4 was much less than stable? =20 > For me and a lot of others, it was worthless at first. It was good eye= =20 > candy but not functional even for the little I do. >=20 > Yea, it is what I want but it is also what MANY others wanted. Some of= =20 > those people switched to something else or still use KDE3. It's their=20 > code, but if people stop using it, what is it really worth? I'm sure=20 > KDE wants to gain users not piss them off and make them go away. >=20 > For me, if KDE does such a lousy switch over again, I'll be using=20 > something else. Given the posts I read where others have already done=20 > so, I doubt I would be alone. I'm all for second chances. We all lear= n=20 > the hard way sometimes. I'm just hoping KDE did. >=20 I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in 2009. Now I have zero. It was a harrowing time, switching=20 everyone to gnome, finding that is not so hot, finally=20 putting them on xfce. If xfce gets a wild hair and changes=20 my plan is to dumb down the fluxbox or openbox=20 configs I have for my own use, add some scripting and call=20 it a day. No-one disputes the freedom of the devs to do anything=20 they wish with their code.=20 It's just like anything else in life: you're free to do=20 anything you want. Just know the consequences before=20 you act or you may get burned. --=20 caveat utilitor=20 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB=20