From: Peter Humphrey <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 00:31:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201105120031.45768.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DCAFC4F.1080404@kutulu.org>
On Wednesday 11 May 2011 22:14:55 Mike Edenfield wrote:
> The only problem with LC_ALL is that it overrides all of the other LC_*
> variables.
- which is precisely what most ordinary desktop users want. In such a case it's
a useful shorthand. Personally, I have no intention of ever allowing US
"English" to pollute any of my boxes (no offence meant to anyone here), so
LC_ALL="en_GB.UTF-8" suits me (so far - until I trip over something!).
> Setting just LANG= and setting just LC_ALL= have the same ultimate result:
> every localization category uses the same locale.
I knew a manager some years ago* who tried hard to persuade his bosses that he
could be in two places at once - he even had two fish-huts! He was usually to be
found in the same time-zone though, for all that.
> The difference is that setting LC_ALL means you can't turn around and redefine,
> say, just LC_TIME to use some other locale's format.
This isn't going to be the majority case though, is it? I'm not talking about
globe-trotting laptops here; just your ordinary desktop box.
You can tell from my tone, I hope, that I'm only half-serious, but still I can't
see why the simple approach should be frowned on so severely. What practical
benefit do I lose by setting LC_ALL once and for all? This machine has been in
the same place all its life, and I'm confident that won't change. The same
applies to my other machines. I say it's time for document writers to recognise
two cases explicitly: static machines and mobile ones.
* He worked 24 hours/day for a mainframe system integrator near Minneapolis.
That didn't stop it going down the pan when its marketing department failed to
see the direction of the prevailing wind in its most important contract ever.
--
Rgds
Peter
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2011-05-10 21:55 [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone? Dale
2011-05-10 21:34 ` Todd Goodman
2011-05-10 22:05 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-10 22:07 ` Paul Hartman
2011-05-10 23:21 ` covici
2011-05-10 22:41 ` Alex Schuster
2011-05-10 23:10 ` Dale
2011-05-10 23:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-10 23:50 ` Dale
2011-05-11 5:00 ` Dale
2011-05-11 11:23 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 12:16 ` Marius Vaitiekunas
2011-05-11 12:33 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 14:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-11 16:37 ` William Hubbs
2011-05-11 12:33 ` Dale
2011-05-11 12:53 ` Marius Vaitiekunas
2011-05-11 13:22 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 13:40 ` Dale
2011-05-11 14:45 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 15:42 ` Dale
2011-05-11 15:53 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 16:02 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-05-11 16:54 ` Dale
2011-05-11 21:02 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-11 22:51 ` Dale
2011-05-12 2:50 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 9:21 ` Dale
2011-05-12 12:00 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 12:58 ` Dale
2011-05-11 21:14 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-11 23:31 ` Peter Humphrey [this message]
2011-05-12 2:53 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 17:06 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 17:20 ` Dale
2011-05-12 20:24 ` Mick
2011-05-12 21:42 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 22:57 ` Dale
2011-05-13 12:40 ` Stroller
2011-05-13 13:26 ` Dale
2011-05-13 19:27 ` Mick
2011-05-13 22:56 ` William Hubbs
2011-05-14 15:55 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 19:41 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-05-12 21:48 ` Stroller
2011-05-13 19:32 ` Mick
2011-05-14 16:01 ` Stroller
2011-05-12 20:16 ` che
2011-05-11 14:52 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-11 13:22 ` Philip Webb
2011-05-11 13:45 ` Dale
2011-05-11 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 8:33 ` Mick
2011-05-10 22:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Florian Philipp
2011-05-11 0:02 ` Adam Carter
2011-05-11 0:02 ` Manuel McLure
2011-05-11 1:01 ` Leonardo Guilherme
2011-05-11 1:58 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-11 2:56 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-12 0:41 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-12 9:23 ` Dale
2011-05-12 19:50 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-05-11 6:42 ` Philip Webb
2011-05-11 6:55 ` Dale
2011-05-11 8:18 ` Philip Webb
2011-05-11 9:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-11 9:55 ` Dale
2011-05-11 10:10 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-11 10:25 ` Dale
2011-05-11 21:32 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-05-12 4:21 ` James Wall
2011-05-12 9:24 ` Dale
2011-05-11 8:17 ` [gentoo-user] " Jacques Montier
2011-05-11 10:43 ` Fernando Antunes
2011-05-11 11:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-05-11 12:27 ` Dale
2011-05-12 7:11 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-05-12 9:25 ` Dale
2011-05-12 12:33 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-05-12 13:00 ` Dale
2011-05-12 19:52 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-05-12 20:24 ` Dale
2011-05-13 2:30 ` Manuel McLure
2011-05-13 15:21 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-05-13 16:31 ` William Hubbs
2011-05-13 17:14 ` Manuel McLure
2011-05-11 11:15 ` Felix Leif Keppmann
2011-05-11 12:29 ` Kfir Lavi
2011-05-11 15:06 ` Mark Knecht
2011-05-11 15:55 ` Dale
2011-05-11 16:32 ` James Wall
2011-05-11 17:43 ` Dale
2011-05-13 17:04 ` Daniel da Veiga
2011-05-13 18:57 ` BRM
2011-05-13 19:54 ` Dale
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2011-05-11 15:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Indi
2011-05-11 15:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-11 16:38 ` BRM
2011-05-12 0:40 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-12 11:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 11:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-12 12:54 ` Dale
2011-05-12 13:25 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 13:46 ` Dale
2011-05-12 14:18 ` JDM
2011-05-12 14:21 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-12 14:38 ` Dale
2011-05-12 21:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 21:44 ` Dale
2011-05-13 5:30 ` pk
2011-05-13 8:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-13 14:19 ` BRM
2011-05-14 7:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-17 11:55 ` BRM
2011-05-13 8:16 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-16 10:59 ` Tanstaafl
2011-05-12 15:21 ` Mike Edenfield
2011-05-12 14:19 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-05-13 17:57 ` Walter Dnes
2011-05-13 19:50 ` Mick
2011-05-13 20:08 ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-05-13 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
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2011-05-12 15:06 ` Indi
2011-05-12 15:15 ` Dale
2011-05-12 20:55 ` Alan McKinnon
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2011-05-12 22:52 ` Indi
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2011-05-13 10:41 ` Indi
2011-05-13 11:33 ` Dale
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2011-05-12 21:19 ` Indi
2011-05-12 21:37 ` Alan McKinnon
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2011-05-11 16:34 ` Indi
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2011-05-12 12:31 ` Indi
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2011-05-12 14:00 ` Indi
2011-05-12 14:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-05-12 14:33 ` Dale
2011-05-12 22:19 ` walt
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2011-05-12 14:51 ` Indi
2011-05-13 8:36 ` Neil Bothwick
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2011-05-12 22:44 ` Indi
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2011-05-12 22:46 ` Indi
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