[gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Robin Atwood]

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I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on 
the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of 
the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer 
points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a "Linux 
Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.



TIA
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Davide Carnovale]

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my acer aspire 5740d has an ati card that works, a sunyin (or something)
webcam that works, intel hda audio works (although i had to fight for the
mic to work) and wifi works too (don't recall what card it has...) never
tested hibernation or suspend though...

D

2011/3/30 Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net>

>  I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
> else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
> worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
> WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern.
> Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping
> costs to the UK.
>
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>
> TIA
>
> -Robin
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> Robin Atwood.
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> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
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> Robin Atwood.
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> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
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> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
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> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Elaine C. Sharpe]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote:
>    I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
>    else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
>    worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
>    WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser
>    concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to
>    avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>

I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for 
thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky 
and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been 
a few years since I upgraded.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[skiarxon]

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I got a Toshiba Qosmio F50 series. Camera wireless and sound work fine
(actually after one kernel upgrade some months ago even the woofer suddenly
worked). I have not ever bothered with the TV card that it is provided
though but it won't be a problem I think.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[JM]

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My Acer Aspire One worked with very few modifications.

Picked up my wifi card and usb camera (the one in the lid is actually usb),
sound card and intel graphics driver (though I haven't yet tried X, only
framebuffer, but I get framebuffer in 1024 by 768 on it). Touchpad works
fine with gpm mouse driver.

Bit of a cheapo netbook but if flies under gentoo, while it was pretty slow
under windows. dual core intel Atom.

just out of curiosity I also tried the the pixielive cd which runs X for the
intel gma graphics chip and is based on gentoo -  it gave me full native res
with little or now slowdown - I think it uses the poulsbo driver (or some
similar name), overall, installing gentoo was painless - the worst
experience I had was trying to map my windows key to CTRL-A for use in
screen, still haven't managed it!

On 30 March 2011 19:31, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:

>  I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
> else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
> worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
> WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern.
> Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping
> costs to the UK.
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> -Robin
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Robin Atwood.
>
>
>
> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
>
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> Robin Atwood.
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> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
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> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:31:09 +0100, Robin Atwood wrote:

> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
> else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
> worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
> WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser
> concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to
> avoid shipping costs to the UK.

If you want a UK supplier of laptops guaranteed to work with Linux, try
http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no
mercy." \xA0-- Joseph Campbell

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Valmor de Almeida]

On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote:
>>    I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
>>    else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
>>    worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
>>    WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser
>>    concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to
>>    avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>>
> 
> I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for 
> thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky 
> and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been 
> a few years since I upgraded.
> 

I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio too. Don't
have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad
buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very
good machine under gentoo.

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Valmor

Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Jacob Todd]

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My thinkpad w510 'just works.'

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[kelly hirai]

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thinkpad edge i5, intel  gpu. x86_64 all good.

On 03/30/11 14:31, Robin Atwood wrote:
>
> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
> else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the
> hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
> WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser
> concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to
> avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> -Robin
>
> -- 
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Robin Atwood.
>
>
>
> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Robin Atwood.
>
> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Kevin Coetzee]

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HP Probook 4710s just works.

x86_64
Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd (webcam)
Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
ATI Technologies Inc M92 LP [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series]
(x11-drivers/radeon-ucode and x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati)
Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 436c

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:12 AM, kelly hirai <kgh03@fsu.edu> wrote:

>  thinkpad edge i5, intel  gpu. x86_64 all good.
>
>
> On 03/30/11 14:31, Robin Atwood wrote:
>
> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else
> on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked
> out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the
> finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a "Linux
> Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>
>
>
>  TIA
>
> -Robin
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Robin Atwood.
>
>
>
>  "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>  --
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Robin Atwood.
>
> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Robin Atwood
<robin.atwood@attglobal.net>wrote:

>  I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
> else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
> worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
> WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern.
> Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping
> costs to the UK.
>
>
>
> TIA
>
> -Robin
>
>
I bought a Gateway NV55C late last year, and Ubuntu went on without a hitch:
sound, movies, webcam, wifi, ethernet, second monitor and all.

The only thing to dislike is that the machine does not have an indicator LED
for caps lock -- on Win 7 it uses an on-screen icon each time the status
changes.

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Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[BRM]

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At work, we've had a lot of success with Lenovo's. My T61p (3 years old) is 
fully supported by Linux - wireless included - according the documentations; I 
can't quite verify as I haven't been able to transition it (yet) to Linux.
Colleagues haven't had issues with another model, but I'm not sure which it is 
off-hand.

Ben


>
>From: Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@gmail.com>
>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 10:15:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> 
>wrote:
>
>I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on 
>the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of 
>the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer 
>points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a "Linux 
>Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>TIA
>>-Robin
>>

I bought a Gateway NV55C late last year, and Ubuntu went on without a hitch: 
sound, movies, webcam, wifi, ethernet, second monitor and all.

The only thing to dislike is that the machine does not have an indicator LED for 
caps lock -- on Win 7 it uses an on-screen icon each time the status changes. 


>-- 
>Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Ryan Harris]

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I have an hp dv7-3085us. Everything on it worked fine with Linux out of the box. Webcam,bluetooth,wireless,audio, ect... Hibernation works great with tux on ice.








On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:


I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.




TIA
-Robin










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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:31:09PM +0100, Robin Atwood wrote
> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if
> anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all
> the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned
> about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of
> lesser concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I
> want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.

  That would require the install CD to be psychic.  I got an Acer Aspire
working under Gentoo after "an excellent adventure".  See thread...
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/238950  I think that
with Gentoo the problem is knowing which drivers to use.  The only
problem is to avoid machines with "Poulsbo" video chips at all costs.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>

Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Fernando Antunes]

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On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:31:09PM +0100, Robin Atwood wrote
> > I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if
> > anyone else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all
> > the hardware worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned
> > about WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of
> > lesser concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I
> > want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.
>
> Lenovo Thinkpad T series works great.


>   That would require the install CD to be psychic.  I got an Acer Aspire
> working under Gentoo after "an excellent adventure".  See thread...
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/238950  I think that
> with Gentoo the problem is knowing which drivers to use.  The only
> problem is to avoid machines with "Poulsbo" video chips at all costs.
>
> --
> Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Zhu Sha Zang]

I have a Lenovo's Ideapad Z360 . He works fine except for haven't 
support of Optimus Technology on Linux. But the NVIDIA VGA can be 
deactivated in bios and the battery consuption are decreased.

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 
310M] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])


It's a great machine at all.


Att

Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Kfir Lavi]

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Valmor de Almeida <val.gentoo@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 03/30/2011 02:46 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote:
> >>    I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
> >>    else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the
> hardware
> >>    worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
> >>    WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser
> >>    concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to
> >>    avoid shipping costs to the UK.
> >>
> >
> > I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for
> > thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky
> > and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been
> > a few years since I upgraded.
> >
>
> I've been using a thinkpad X201; WiFi works well and audio too. Don't
> have a camera. There is a little problem configuring the touch pad
> buttons for a left hand but it does not bother me. All in all a very
> good machine under gentoo.
>
> --
> Valmor
>
> I have the X200. I use it with 8GB of ram, so all compilation of Gentoo
system and Catalyst
is done on the ram. Really good. 8GB cost me on ebay 90$ !
The wifi works good, but again as Valmor said there is no cam on the laptop.

I also don't have touch pad, just the red stick. I like it that way.
The computer goes to sleep, but I didn't tried to hibernate.
I have also the X60s and it is a bad laptop. It gets really hot, fairly
quickly, and it is very annoying.

About the wifi: take care that the wifi card can be changed, as it is a pcie
card. So if the laptop seems
to be good for the buck, and the wifi is not what you want, you can just buy
one of the good wifi cards on
ebay and replace it on your new laptop. This of course will void the
warranty ;-)

Other thing you should consider is the battery life. In my Thinkpad x60s I
have upgraded the battery to a 12cell
big one, and it lasts about 7-9 hours. Such a battery is hard to fine for
other brands of laptops. You will usually
find them for thinkpads, I guess because their made for work. I think it
cost me about 60$ or so on ebay.

Regards,
Kfir

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Robin Atwood]

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On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote:
> I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone else
> on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware worked
> out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about WiFi/audio/webcam,
> the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I have a
> "Linux Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the UK.

Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a ThinkPad 
so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and a 1600x900 
screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :)

Hopefully this thread will be useful to other users.
Cheers
-Robin.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:12:32 Robin Atwood wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a
> ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM and
> a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :)

I meant to say before, but one big advantage of my T61, now a couple of years 
old, is that I can disable that execrable touch-pad in the BIOS - much finer 
config control than I've had in a laptop before.

Well done, anyway. Good luck with it.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?

[Indi]

On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:20:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote:
>    On Wednesday 30 March 2011, Robin Atwood wrote:
> 
>    > I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone
>    else
> 
>    > on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware
>    worked
> 
>    > out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about
>    WiFi/audio/webcam,
> 
>    > the finer points of hibernation are of lesser concern. Currently I
>    have a
> 
>    > "Linux Certified" machine but I want to avoid shipping costs to the
>    UK.
> 
>    Thanks to everyone who replied. The overwhelming choice seems to be a
>    ThinkPad so I have just ordered a T510 with a Core i7, 4GB of 1033 RAM
>    and a 1600x900 screen Now I can't wait for it to be delivered. :)
> 
>    Hopefully this thread will be useful to other users.
> 
>    Cheers
> 
>    -Robin.
> 
>    --
> 
>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>    Robin Atwood.
> 
>    "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
> 
>    Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
> 
>    from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
> 
>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Everything runs on the thinkpad, I even had mine running 
plan9 for awhile. :)

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