[gentoo-user] x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[gentoo-user] x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Mick]

Hi All,

I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
go into standby anymore ...

According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
disabled it.

Have you noticed the same?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[walt]

On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
> go into standby anymore ...
>
> According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
> disabled it.
>
> Have you noticed the same?

No, it still works as usual.  What does xset q tell you?  Maybe it's a
bug in the video driver?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Dale]

walt wrote:
> On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
>> go into standby anymore ...
>>
>> According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
>> disabled it.
>>
>> Have you noticed the same?
>
> No, it still works as usual.  What does xset q tell you?  Maybe it's a
> bug in the video driver?
>

When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my 
monitor off.  I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote:
> walt wrote:
> > On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >> 
> >> I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
> >> go into standby anymore ...
> >> 
> >> According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
> >> disabled it.
> >> 
> >> Have you noticed the same?
> > 
> > No, it still works as usual.  What does xset q tell you?  Maybe it's a
> > bug in the video driver?
> 
> When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my
> monitor off.  I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK.

This is strange - I added  Option "DPMS"   "on" under the Monitor section in 
the xorg.conf, but it won't take.

xset +dpms works fine ...

Why would that be?
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Dale]

Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote:
>    
>>      
>> When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my
>> monitor off.  I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK.
>>      
> This is strange - I added  Option "DPMS"   "on" under the Monitor section in
> the xorg.conf, but it won't take.
>
> xset +dpms works fine ...
>
> Why would that be?
>    

I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing.  When I first 
upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off 
myself.  I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the 
monitor.  I have another script that sets it back when I log out.  I put 
it in ~.kde4/Autostart.  It's the same commands I tested manually and it 
works fine.

If I recall correctly, KDE was not quite up to speed on controlling the 
monitor with DPMS yet.  That was back in the 4.1 days so that may have 
changed but given you are having issues with it, maybe it is still 
having problems.  This could be due to the hal/udev/polkit switch as 
well.  They may be letting all that settle so that they only have to 
write the code once.  I would do that if it was me.  ;-)

This is my settings when I am logged in:

xset dpms 3600 3600 3600

I think that is one hour.  I'm pretty sure it is measured in seconds not 
minutes.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Mick]

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On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:23:31 Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote:
> >> When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my
> >> monitor off.  I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK.
> > 
> > This is strange - I added  Option "DPMS"   "on" under the Monitor section
> > in the xorg.conf, but it won't take.
> > 
> > xset +dpms works fine ...
> > 
> > Why would that be?
> 
> I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing.  When I first
> upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off
> myself.  I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the
> monitor.  I have another script that sets it back when I log out.  I put
> it in ~.kde4/Autostart.  It's the same commands I tested manually and it
> works fine.
> 
> If I recall correctly, KDE was not quite up to speed on controlling the
> monitor with DPMS yet.  That was back in the 4.1 days so that may have
> changed but given you are having issues with it, maybe it is still
> having problems.  This could be due to the hal/udev/polkit switch as
> well.  They may be letting all that settle so that they only have to
> write the code once.  I would do that if it was me.  ;-)
> 
> This is my settings when I am logged in:
> 
> xset dpms 3600 3600 3600
> 
> I think that is one hour.  I'm pretty sure it is measured in seconds not
> minutes.

I would have thought that DPMS is a an xorg function/issue, rather than KDE's.

Things went sideways here when I upgrade xorg-server from 1.9.2 to 1.9.4.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Dale]

Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:23:31 Dale wrote:
>    
>> I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing.  When I first
>> upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off
>> myself.  I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the
>> monitor.  I have another script that sets it back when I log out.  I put
>> it in ~.kde4/Autostart.  It's the same commands I tested manually and it
>> works fine.
>>
>> If I recall correctly, KDE was not quite up to speed on controlling the
>> monitor with DPMS yet.  That was back in the 4.1 days so that may have
>> changed but given you are having issues with it, maybe it is still
>> having problems.  This could be due to the hal/udev/polkit switch as
>> well.  They may be letting all that settle so that they only have to
>> write the code once.  I would do that if it was me.  ;-)
>>
>> This is my settings when I am logged in:
>>
>> xset dpms 3600 3600 3600
>>
>> I think that is one hour.  I'm pretty sure it is measured in seconds not
>> minutes.
>>      
> I would have thought that DPMS is a an xorg function/issue, rather than KDE's.
>
> Things went sideways here when I upgrade xorg-server from 1.9.2 to 1.9.4.
>
>    

I thought the same thing.  Thing is, there are settings in KDE to tell 
it when to blank, cut off and all that.  I just know I couldn't get it 
to work until I did the things I posted.  It didn't make much sense but 
it works now.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:54:12 walt wrote:
> On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
> > go into standby anymore ...
> > 
> > According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
> > disabled it.
> > 
> > Have you noticed the same?
> 
> No, it still works as usual.  What does xset q tell you?  Maybe it's a
> bug in the video driver?

Hmm ... this is what I see:

Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  0    cycle:  5
...

DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 600    Suspend: 600    Off: 600
  DPMS is Disabled

Are you saying that the radeon driver disable DPMS?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 23 February 2011 22:45:18 Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:54:12 walt wrote:
> > On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
> > > go into standby anymore ...
> > > 
> > > According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
> > > disabled it.
> > > 
> > > Have you noticed the same?
> > 
> > No, it still works as usual.  What does xset q tell you?  Maybe it's a
> > bug in the video driver?
> 
> Hmm ... this is what I see:
> 
> Screen Saver:
>   prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
>   timeout:  0    cycle:  5
> ...
> 
> DPMS (Energy Star):
>   Standby: 600    Suspend: 600    Off: 600
>   DPMS is Disabled
> 
> Are you saying that the radeon driver disable DPMS?

This is what the log shows:

# less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i DPMS
[    36.365] (II) Loading extension DPMS
[    36.595] (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified
[    36.653] (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled

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Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS

[walt]

On 02/23/2011 02:51 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 February 2011 22:45:18 Mick wrote:
>> On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:54:12 walt wrote:
>>> On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not
>>>> go into standby anymore ...
>>>>
>>>> According to the man pages "DPMS" is enabled by default and I have not
>>>> disabled it.
>>>>
>>>> Have you noticed the same?
>>>
>>> No, it still works as usual.  What does xset q tell you?  Maybe it's a
>>> bug in the video driver?
>>
>> Hmm ... this is what I see:
>>
>> Screen Saver:
>>    prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
>>    timeout:  0    cycle:  5
>> ...
>>
>> DPMS (Energy Star):
>>    Standby: 600    Suspend: 600    Off: 600
>>    DPMS is Disabled
>>
>> Are you saying that the radeon driver disable DPMS?
>
> This is what the log shows:
>
> # less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i DPMS
> [    36.365] (II) Loading extension DPMS
> [    36.595] (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified
> [    36.653] (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled

The driver is lying to you :)  That sounds to me like a bug.