From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PquAx-0000tZ-7I for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:17:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4016D1C049; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f52.google.com (mail-gw0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE5F1C049 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11so2175819gwb.11 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.158.25 with SMTP id k25mr2455267yao.27.1298150148146; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from satcidananda (adsl-152-89-198.asm.bellsouth.net [72.152.89.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm4411422ano.31.2011.02.19.13.15.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:15:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:08:56 -0500 From: "Elaine C. Sharpe" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Player / Firefox trouble Message-ID: <20110219210856.GA17609@satcidananda> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0ddf25fc6af6ab05ae985d7f650a6aad In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > gmx.de> writes: > > > >> got some problems here with the Flash Player Plugin and Firefox and >> may other parts. > > Well, I was "noodling" around the net about video (VP8) and there > seems to be a war brewing. As you know, Google is has open sourced > VP8 as a replacement for H.264. It seems that the web browser > groups each pay millions of dollars per year to be able to give > away a browser that supports h.264 streaming video. > > h.264 is everywhere, cell phone apps, HDTV, utube, just to=20 > name a few. Now Theora was based on an old codec (vp3) I believe. > Google purchased the company that developed VP8 and purports > it to replace h.264. > > > Naturally MPLA (the stinking lawyers behind h.246) is upset > because the financial rewards of the the patents behind h.264 > are worth an enormous sum of money, over the next few decades. > VP8 is not threating that. If you saw my post on Nokia and Microsoft > going down the darkside together (very strange), what I did not > say is that Balmer is pushing the bussword "EcoSystem" composed > of Xbox-live, Office and Bing. > > Google has that and more. Apple has their own "EcoSystem". > > Many Browsers will be dropping support for h.264 in the near=20 > future, and streaming video, at least in the short run, > is now fair game and going to be not interoperable. > > Is this your problem? Maybe, maybe not. Drop back a version > and see if it fixes your problem. > > Better still, one of the young (smart) kids on this list > prolly (guesses?) knows all about this. If it is not your > problem now, it surely will be *REAL SOON*; as it will > become everybody's problem as the Economic Giants scratch > out and protect their "video EcoSystems". Stock prices > are more of a concern to these titans, than piss_ants > consumuers (that's what they ALL really see in us). So > do not be fool, Google is as big a whore as the rest, imho. > Google has well intentioned folks, but to quote an old addage > "Money talks and Bullshit walks"....... > > > hth, > James IME most video on the web can be viewed with mplayer, if you=20 can get a link to the actual file. I often download flv files=20 and use ffmpeg to reencode them as mp4. Works even for videos=20 that the linux flashplayer can't handle. I do wish netflix would go with something other than silverlight=20 though, running win7 in vbox works but I shouldn't have to do all=20 that... --=20 caveat utilitor=20 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB=20