From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PkrV7-0002rR-IG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:13:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48671E0539; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 05:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FDEE0539 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 05:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so750277wwi.10 for ; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:11:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=ArKNrBEdn+0oFUYhLuQR52uLVNNHZ0kyRS3YxU+QsPs=; b=cCtZ2AcVDJCKb3E7cs7k4aWCwC5qqE8lZggIENPv5qm2/nkb6+iw5SQaJAd30vRlac jLOOFSFIhWSv4pOVEa1lY3HzrUTuhtOXOXJuPxyZKohvS8/Ukt6yH7OXJmhHGMI6bqVN oDDGhCq0CYHWm6/L1LC3mplp+poa21IRGa9iE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=pCL/XB+MgH/8XsOuxG9ULqP4oe3Eq69Xtv++7kXvLzSPlaBeciLUPt9vF3+rpUe4uD pzsKLRo0qv6HjbnURokXn8l20qBzSZ55W40psteJCBwvrehuTVDdD7o/jrSxlWppkiaX aglopr+pUW7QucByuPkVb33Ea/tGfMJjIdjfw= Received: by 10.227.152.197 with SMTP id h5mr10106947wbw.78.1296709899218; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-42-107.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.42.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f35sm287233wbf.20.2011.02.02.21.11.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:11:38 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:12:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37-ck; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <4D49EFCA.6090707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D49EFCA.6090707@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201102030712.04029.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 637dede78aa95417be45253a33e61ad2 Apparently, though unproven, at 01:59 on Thursday 03 February 2011, Dale did opine thusly: > Brian Waters wrote: > > Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu > > (I heard it "just works", and that is a Good Thing) only to find that > > I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships > > with PulseAudio means that sound it basically broken out of the box, > > and I'm excited for Xfce 4.8.) > > > > It's been a few months since I've been around, and I'd like to know if > > HAL has been fully deprecated yet. I'd like to avoid using it if at > > all possible, since that seems to be the way of the future. So I'm > > wondering what versions of udev and X server (and any other packages, > > dbus maybe?) I need to unmask in order to get rid of the HAL > > dependency. > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > - BW > > I use KDE here but with KDE 4.6, hal is gone. I use xorg 1.9 and no hal > there. If nothing in xfce doesn't need it, then I think it is gone. > All this is on amd64. I'm in the process of updating my x86 rig so I > could answer for it in a day or so. Give me a poke if you need a > report. ;-) > > Keep in mind, there are still a few packages that you CAN enable hal > on. They are disabled here and still work fine as far as I know. I > haven't burned a CD/DVD yet but k3b does see the drive and all. I would > think it would work. That reminds me, I need to update some backups. o_O Everything left here is optional: $ equery depends hal * These packages depend on hal: app-cdr/k3b-2.0.2-r1 (hal ? sys-apps/hal) app-emulation/wine-1.3.11 (hal ? sys-apps/hal) app-misc/hal-info-20091130 (>=sys-apps/hal-0.5.10) dev-libs/e_dbus-1.0.0 (hal ? sys-apps/hal) media-gfx/gimp-2.6.11 (hal ? sys-apps/hal) media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.10 (hal ? >=sys-apps/hal-0.5) media-tv/xbmc-10.0 (hal ? sys-apps/hal) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com