From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Pk32Y-0002hX-UL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:20:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08B14E0AC9 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1267E0A9F for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so8149538wyf.40 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:49:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=5hxy+e3T0+PBcJQTTdZ13LcYQBRLcliQn1fo1UvOjAc=; b=uw62T5sdoGRB7pc/tuyBdYEwNhS9mEEhv9xsZF0OYPl9w5b9aKcOt3AzvHNnOQ4sIB NK6HaKcOFKhSE5F4JAsEc/nswd7sSSNL3F+ihKHWpYiqCikjqLDPbsdc1CuEHzqSCVAE ySAEA6/wTQxfK1YCWTxDou1Rg/+HAjhYfb624= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=luRNrBN4jDpBAFY0b8HQcRYusau9eOjHrJCm+Ky5SQQapWgw61klrTDvk2hnKWVoZ3 cPo/YitalHgfXhDeEJIn1mOqIhSODrtOv2ZWNvrLfKcTvQSonlvCbdH/r8i1ORhJ+PEl 5sAnkILWCWbPuKJPwcvBRWm1aM6LGtHXFXDIA= Received: by 10.216.17.201 with SMTP id j51mr6710028wej.44.1296514157796; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n78sm11077572weq.3.2011.01.31.14.49.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:49:16 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on really old tree Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:49:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4D46E4C2.4040809@gmail.com> <201101312157.01752.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201101312157.01752.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1869586.PvHoj29XvT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201101312249.27241.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f5589d17a0a60a798fe271e68035b6f3 --nextPart1869586.PvHoj29XvT Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 31 January 2011 19:57:01 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:35 on Monday 31 January 2011, Andrei > Brezan >=20 > did opine thusly: [snip ...] > > Is it possible to update this system? If yes please shed some light or > > point me in the right direction. >=20 > It's certainly possible to update the old machine, but the real question > is, do you want to go through all that effort? >=20 > You will probably have to deal with multiple situations that follow this > pattern: >=20 > some package version X needs to be upgraded to version x+2. But there's > some other package that prevents you doing this immediately as there are > blockers in place. So you upgrade the other package, then upgrade the > first one to version X+1. Then do it all again to finally get the first > package to version X+2 >=20 > You also have python-2.4 in there which needs to go to 2.6. Ouch. I have > horrible visions of running python-updater multiple times.... >=20 > Gentoo shares its roots with FreeBSD but running Gentoo daily is always > more involved than with FreeBSD, especially cases like this. You cannot > just upgrade from eg Gentoo-5 to Gentoo-6 as these concepts do not exist. >=20 > It is so much easier to just backup your data files and re-install, then > restore the data. It'll take a few hours, trying to upgrade might take > days. >=20 > If you want to try, start with "emerge -avuND system", get that to comple= te > and take it from there. Only to reinforce what Alan says. Sometimes even a month or two is enough = to=20 cause headaches if cornerstone packages of the toolchain have been updated= =20 more than once. Unless you want to undertake this for self-punishment purposes, it will be= =20 much easier to back up /home /etc and /var/lib/portage/world from the curre= nt=20 system and reinstall using the last two directories to minimise manual=20 configuration of your box. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1869586.PvHoj29XvT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk1HPHcACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZ7IQCfdYDgZTUFmg8umyX/R1DQXiKY qBAAn3xRT8e4UPGrJdc0B/9u0mbGUOlq =OZGy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1869586.PvHoj29XvT--