[gentoo-user] kmix/sound broken

[gentoo-user] kmix/sound broken

[James]

kmix will not run. The icon just bounces and then terminates.

Previously, installed kde4 using kde-meta. Rebuilding kde-meta
does not go into all of the individual packages.

I've never had trouble with kmix before, so any guidance
as to what package(s) to rebuild, would be appreciated.

Rebuilding kmix alone did not solve the problem...
(emerge -1Dv kmix)

Ideas or suggestions are most welcome. The machine runs
an identical kernel as another machine (actually just
about everything is identical, particularly the hardware)
and kmix is fine on that machine. Sound is also broken
on the system where kmix is broken.


ideas?


James

Re: [gentoo-user] kmix/sound broken

[Mick]

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On Thursday 27 January 2011 23:08:55 James wrote:
> kmix will not run. The icon just bounces and then terminates.
> 
> Previously, installed kde4 using kde-meta. Rebuilding kde-meta
> does not go into all of the individual packages.
> 
> I've never had trouble with kmix before, so any guidance
> as to what package(s) to rebuild, would be appreciated.
> 
> Rebuilding kmix alone did not solve the problem...
> (emerge -1Dv kmix)
> 
> Ideas or suggestions are most welcome. The machine runs
> an identical kernel as another machine (actually just
> about everything is identical, particularly the hardware)
> and kmix is fine on that machine. Sound is also broken
> on the system where kmix is broken.
> 
> 
> ideas?


What does kmix and kmix --keepvisibility show when you run them from a 
terminal?
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] kmix/sound broken

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 28.01.2011 00:08, schrieb James:
> kmix will not run. The icon just bounces and then terminates.
> 
> Previously, installed kde4 using kde-meta. Rebuilding kde-meta
> does not go into all of the individual packages.
> 
[...]
> 
> Ideas or suggestions are most welcome. The machine runs
> an identical kernel as another machine (actually just
> about everything is identical, particularly the hardware)
> and kmix is fine on that machine. Sound is also broken
> on the system where kmix is broken.
> 

Take a look at ~/.xsession-errors

That's where most (all?) of KDE does its logging.


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[gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[James]

Florian Philipp <lists <at> binarywings.net> writes:

> 
> Am 28.01.2011 00:08, schrieb James:
> > kmix will not run. The icon just bounces and then terminates.

> Take a look at ~/.xsession-errors

> That's where most (all?) of KDE does its logging.

ok, I ran a "tail -f /home/user/.xsession-errors"

in one window and typed in "kmix" in another terminal 
window. Nothing logged and the command line just returned
empty as though I just hit the return key...

Just for grins, I tried the icon, in bouned for a while
then nothing. no error in .xsession-errors.

Parsing the .xsession-errors file here are a few select tidbits:




kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kmixctrl.so
Connecting to deprecated signal
QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
kglobalaccel(4642) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::registerKey: Registering key
"Alt+F2" for "krunner" : "Run Command"


kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
Unknown service name: 10d5eae5690001295882084
00000043360007_1295887108_971825
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Connecting to deprecated signal
QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
kglobalaccel(4642) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::registerKey: 
Registering key "Volume
Up" for "kmix" : "increase_volume"
kglobalaccel(4642) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::registerKey: 
Registering key "Volume
Down" for "kmix" : "decrease_volume"
kglobalaccel(4642) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::registerKey: 
Registering key "Volume
Mute" for "kmix" : "mute"
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10d5eae5690001295882092000000
43360009_1295887108_972252
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10d5eae5690001295882092
00000043360010_1295887108_972379
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10d5eae5690001295882092
00000043360011_1295887108_972511
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10d5eae5690001295882092
00000043360012_1295887108_978319
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_konsole.so
Unknown service name: 10d5eae5690001295882092
00000043360013_1295887108_972639
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "09:42:38 Compiler unit is t
imed at 0.001083 msec
"
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/hp-systray
kded(4590)/kdecore (KLibrary) kde4Factory: The library
"/usr/lib64/kde4/solid_fakenet.so" does not offer a qt_
plugin_instance function.
kded(4590)/kdecore (KLibrary) kde3Factory: The library
"/usr/lib64/kde4/solid_fakenet.so" does not offer 
an "init_solid_fakenet" function.
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_klipper.so
kglobalaccel(4642) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::registerKey: Registering key
"Display" for "kded" : "display"


I'm going to look for old kde3 stuff that may be corrupting the 
application. Also, libata  might be an issue. I need to find
those bookmarks folks posted about udev, libata and such.....
Not sure if related but this system needs some admin work....


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:40:27 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:

> ok, I ran a "tail -f /home/user/.xsession-errors"
> 
> in one window and typed in "kmix" in another terminal 
> window. Nothing logged and the command line just returned
> empty as though I just hit the return key...

It's possible kmix is already running, even though no icon is showing,
try killall kmix first.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Plagarism prohibited. Derive carefully.

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[gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[james]

Neil Bothwick <neil <at> digimed.co.uk> writes:


> It's possible kmix is already running, even though no icon is showing,
> try killall kmix first.

Um the icon does show up in the bottom bar and under
the kde pludown menu....... Launching from either results
in a bouncing icon and no app started.

Manual launch from the terminal, just returns empty.
nice idea! but:

#  killall kmix
kmix: no process found


Besides the problem survives a emerge -e system
and subsequent reboot, so the next blunt instrument
is emerge -e world......

All the kde packages are going to get rebuilt....

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[Dale]

james wrote:
> Neil Bothwick<neil<at>  digimed.co.uk>  writes:
>
>
>    
>> It's possible kmix is already running, even though no icon is showing,
>> try killall kmix first.
>>      
> Um the icon does show up in the bottom bar and under
> the kde pludown menu....... Launching from either results
> in a bouncing icon and no app started.
>
> Manual launch from the terminal, just returns empty.
> nice idea! but:
>
> #  killall kmix
> kmix: no process found
>
>
> Besides the problem survives a emerge -e system
> and subsequent reboot, so the next blunt instrument
> is emerge -e world......
>
> All the kde packages are going to get rebuilt....
>
> James
>    

I noticed this:

root@fireball / # ps aux | grep kmix
dale       667  0.0  0.8 453144 33048 ?        Sl   Jan28   0:00 
kdeinit4: kmix [kdeinit] -session 
10d8df6f6b000124700450100000112470008_1281663401_3252
root     27998  0.0  0.0   6188   572 pts/0    R+   11:30   0:00 grep 
--colour=auto kmix
root@fireball / #

killall kmix may not work in that case.  It appears it is running as 
part of kdeinit.  May not want to kill that unless you have nothing open 
that matters.  Not sure what all that would kill.

You may could just kill that specific process tho.  That may help.  
Another thought, do you not have a Kmix icon in the panel?  That's where 
mine is.  It looks like a speaker with some sound coming out of it.

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[James]

Dale <rdalek1967 <at> gmail.com> writes:



> killall kmix may not work in that case.  It appears it is running as 
> part of kdeinit.  May not want to kill that unless you have nothing open 
> that matters.  Not sure what all that would kill.


killall kmix did nothing....

> You may could just kill that specific process tho.  That may help.  
> Another thought, do you not have a Kmix icon in the panel?  That's where 
> mine is.  It looks like a speaker with some sound coming out of it.

Yes it is in the bottom panel and under the pull down menu.

I rebuilding  all sorts of packages, via revdep

Including akondadi and various kde packages....


Well see....

thx,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:05:55 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:

> > killall kmix may not work in that case.  It appears it is running as 
> > part of kdeinit.  May not want to kill that unless you have nothing
> > open that matters.  Not sure what all that would kill.  
> 
> 
> killall kmix did nothing....

Because, as Dale said, it's running as a kdeinit process. Use ps to get
the PID and kill that. KMix won't stat if it is already running, even if
that process has crashed.


-- 
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Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

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[gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[James]

Neil Bothwick <neil <at> digimed.co.uk> writes:


> > killall kmix did nothing....

> Because, as Dale said, it's running as a kdeinit process. Use ps to get
> the PID and kill that. KMix won't stat if it is already running, even if
> that process has crashed.

I did:

 ps aux | grep kmix
root     31977  0.0  0.0   6184   576 pts/2    S+   11:19   
0:00 grep --colour=auto 

All that is(was) running was the grep process...

I think I found the problem, but need a little guidance.

 All prepared. Starting rebuild
emerge --oneshot --pretend --with-bdeps y app-editors/xemacs:0
app-office/akonadi-server:0
app-text/libspectre:0
dev-db/libdbi-drivers:0
dev-lang/php:5.3
dev-libs/apr-util:1
dev-libs/cyrus-sasl:2
dev-libs/redland:0
kde-base/nepomuk:4.4
media-gfx/imagemagick:0
x11-libs/qt-sql:4

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to 
satisfy ">=kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.
5[aqua=,-kdeprefix,semantic-desktop]"          
     
                           
One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
 kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.5-r2 (Change USE: +semantic-desktop)
(dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.4.5" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk:4.4" [argument])


Obviously I can do what it is advising me to do: add 
semantic-desktop to the USE flag in either the make.conf file
or per package in packeage.use........... or such.

What are the caveats of semantic-desktop and nepomuk?
Can I just delete these and go my merry way, or 
where should I read up on these kde4 (pillar) requirements?


Googling, I found this thread:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-799299-start-0.html

Code:
echo ">=kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.0 semantic-desktop" >> /
etc/portage/package.use

I'm now running kde-4.4 and everything seems fine. My understanding 
of what I've done is that kdelibs is now set up to support any 
application which thinks it wants semantic-desktop on while all those
applications with optional support for semantic-desktop know not to use
semantic-desktop.


Guidance and suggestions are warranted, methinks....


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[Mick]

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On Sunday 30 January 2011 16:26:35 James wrote:
> Neil Bothwick <neil <at> digimed.co.uk> writes:
> > > killall kmix did nothing....
> > 
> > Because, as Dale said, it's running as a kdeinit process. Use ps to get
> > the PID and kill that. KMix won't stat if it is already running, even if
> > that process has crashed.
> 
> I did:
> 
>  ps aux | grep kmix
> root     31977  0.0  0.0   6184   576 pts/2    S+   11:19
> 0:00 grep --colour=auto
> 
> All that is(was) running was the grep process...
> 
> I think I found the problem, but need a little guidance.
> 
>  All prepared. Starting rebuild
> emerge --oneshot --pretend --with-bdeps y app-editors/xemacs:0
> app-office/akonadi-server:0
> app-text/libspectre:0
> dev-db/libdbi-drivers:0
> dev-lang/php:5.3
> dev-libs/apr-util:1
> dev-libs/cyrus-sasl:2
> dev-libs/redland:0
> kde-base/nepomuk:4.4
> media-gfx/imagemagick:0
> x11-libs/qt-sql:4
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to
> satisfy ">=kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.
> 5[aqua=,-kdeprefix,semantic-desktop]"
> 
> 
> One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
>  kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.5-r2 (Change USE: +semantic-desktop)
> (dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk-4.4.5" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "kde-base/nepomuk:4.4" [argument])
> 
> 
> Obviously I can do what it is advising me to do: add
> semantic-desktop to the USE flag in either the make.conf file
> or per package in packeage.use........... or such.
> 
> What are the caveats of semantic-desktop and nepomuk?
> Can I just delete these and go my merry way, or
> where should I read up on these kde4 (pillar) requirements?
> 
> 
> Googling, I found this thread:
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-799299-start-0.html
> 
> Code:
> echo ">=kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.0 semantic-desktop" >> /
> etc/portage/package.use
> 
> I'm now running kde-4.4 and everything seems fine. My understanding
> of what I've done is that kdelibs is now set up to support any
> application which thinks it wants semantic-desktop on while all those
> applications with optional support for semantic-desktop know not to use
> semantic-desktop.
> 
> 
> Guidance and suggestions are warranted, methinks....

At some time in the past (like a year ago?) I had to add it to my make.conf 
because some packages would not work without it, but forgot the details.  This 
is what is currently using it on my system:

$ euse -I semantic-desktop
global use flags (searching: semantic-desktop)
************************************************************
[+ C  ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and 
information retrieval

Installed packages matching this USE flag: 
kde-base/dolphin-4.4.5
kde-base/gwenview-4.4.5-r1
kde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta-4.4.5
kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.5-r2
kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.4.5
kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.4.9
kde-base/kget-4.4.5
kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.4.5
kde-base/pykde4-4.4.5-r1
net-wireless/kbluetooth-0.4.2

local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop)
************************************************************
[+ C  ] semantic-desktop (kde-base/pykde4):
Enables Nepomuk and Soprano python language bindings

A full KDE DE may need it more than this.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: kmix/sound broken

[James]

Mick <michaelkintzios <at> gmail.com> writes:


> local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop)
> [+ C  ] semantic-desktop (kde-base/pykde4):
> Enables Nepomuk and Soprano python language bindings
> A full KDE DE may need it more than this.

Yep,

Compiling hundred of packages. Most are not related to
the flag change, but need updating. The semantic-desktop
flag set in make.conf.

I'll post results tomorrow.


James