[gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

Can someone tell me why I don't have sound?  I've followed the
instructions at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml and
everything seems to be working, but there's still no sound.  I've also
swapped out the speakers, made sure they were powered on, and the volume
turned up.  Also I'm in the audio group and the channels are unmuted
with the volume at 75%.

One thing I did notice is that after running alsaconf there aren't any
modules in /etc/modules.d/, in fact the directory doesn't even exist.
Now if there aren't any modules to load that's fine, but since I don't
hear anything I'm not so sure.

Below is what's on my ~amd64 system.

Thanks.

# rc-update show | grep -i alsa
           alsasound | boot

# /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
 * WARNING:  you are stopping a boot service.
 * Storing ALSA Mixer Levels ...
  [ ok ]
 * Loading ALSA modules ...
 *   Loading: snd-card-0 ...
  [ ok ]
 * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
  [ ok ]

# lspci -v | grep -i audio
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)

# cat /etc/kernels/kernel-config-x86_64-2.6.36-gentoo-r5 | egrep -i
'sound|ac97|alsa'
CONFIG_SOUND=m
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE=y
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS_CORE_PRECLAIM=y
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
# CONFIG_SND_AC97_POWER_SAVE is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set
CONFIG_AC97_BUS=m
CONFIG_THINKPAD_ACPI_ALSA_SUPPORT=y
# CONFIG_CRYPTO_SALSA20 is not set
CONFIG_CRYPTO_SALSA20_X86_64=m

# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [CK8S           ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK8S
                      NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at irq 20
 1 [UART           ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART
                      MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 5

# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23.

# cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.23 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux jenny 2.6.36-gentoo-r5 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 16:53:04 EST 2011
x86_64
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at irq 20
MPU-401 UART at 0x300, irq 5

Audio devices:
0: NVidia CK8S (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices:
1: MPU-401 UART MIDI

Timers:
31: system timer

Mixers:
0: Realtek ALC850 rev 0
1: mixer10

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[David Abbott]

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM, dhk <dhkuhl@optonline.net> wrote:
> Can someone tell me why I don't have sound?
What happens when you;
modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss
; modprobe snd-seq-oss

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

On 01/22/2011 08:51 PM, David Abbott wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM, dhk <dhkuhl@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Can someone tell me why I don't have sound?
> What happens when you;
> modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss
> ; modprobe snd-seq-oss
> 
> 

After executing the four modprobes above, nothing happens.

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Hazen Valliant-Saunders]

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Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.

have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to unumte the
channels with?)

You need to unmute the channells;

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM, dhk <dhkuhl@optonline.net> wrote:

> On 01/22/2011 08:51 PM, David Abbott wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM, dhk <dhkuhl@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> Can someone tell me why I don't have sound?
> > What happens when you;
> > modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss
> > ; modprobe snd-seq-oss
> >
> >
>
> After executing the four modprobes above, nothing happens.
>
>
>
>


-- 
Hazen Valliant-Saunders Adipl. CISSP ITIL MCSE MCP
IT/IS Consultant
(613) 355-5977

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Dale]

Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>
> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to 
> unumte the channels with?)
>
> You need to unmute the channells;
>

I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute 
the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa controls 
the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit 
something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound.  Finding 
them all is fun tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

On 01/23/2011 06:10 AM, Dale wrote:
> Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
>> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>>
>> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to
>> unumte the channels with?)
>>
>> You need to unmute the channells;
>>
> 
> I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute
> the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa controls
> the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit
> something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound.  Finding
> them all is fun tho.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 

I had all the channels unmuted.  I ran alsamixer and
gnome-volume-control to unmute and to verify, but still no sound.  In
the /etc/make.conf I have ALSA_CARDS="AC97" set, but I don't think that
matters according to the documentation.

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Dale]

dhk wrote:
> On 01/23/2011 06:10 AM, Dale wrote:
>    
>> Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
>>      
>>> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>>>
>>> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to
>>> unumte the channels with?)
>>>
>>> You need to unmute the channells;
>>>
>>>        
>> I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute
>> the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa controls
>> the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit
>> something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound.  Finding
>> them all is fun tho.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>>      
> I had all the channels unmuted.  I ran alsamixer and
> gnome-volume-control to unmute and to verify, but still no sound.  In
> the /etc/make.conf I have ALSA_CARDS="AC97" set, but I don't think that
> matters according to the documentation.
>
>    

Does lspci -k show it is using some sort of driver?  Mine for example 
shows this:

01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be2 (rev a1)
         Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 069a
         Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel

If yours doesn't show a kernel driver in use, then it is likely a driver 
problem.  If it does show one, make sure it is the correct one.  I 
usually use this as a guide:

http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/

Just run the lspci -n command and paste it in there.  It works well.  If 
it shows it is loading the correct driver, something is muted somewhere 
or maybe it is as simple as you have the speakers plugged into the wrong 
plug.  I did that once on my first build.  I had two green plugs.  Sort 
of got the wrong one.  ;-)

I can't think of anything else at the moment.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

On 01/23/2011 07:20 AM, Dale wrote:
> dhk wrote:
>> On 01/23/2011 06:10 AM, Dale wrote:
>>   
>>> Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>>>>
>>>> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to
>>>> unumte the channels with?)
>>>>
>>>> You need to unmute the channells;
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute
>>> the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa controls
>>> the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit
>>> something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound.  Finding
>>> them all is fun tho.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> I had all the channels unmuted.  I ran alsamixer and
>> gnome-volume-control to unmute and to verify, but still no sound.  In
>> the /etc/make.conf I have ALSA_CARDS="AC97" set, but I don't think that
>> matters according to the documentation.
>>
>>    
> 
> Does lspci -k show it is using some sort of driver?  Mine for example
> shows this:
> 
> 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be2 (rev a1)
>         Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 069a
>         Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
> 
> If yours doesn't show a kernel driver in use, then it is likely a driver
> problem.  If it does show one, make sure it is the correct one.  I
> usually use this as a guide:
> 
> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
> 
> Just run the lspci -n command and paste it in there.  It works well.  If
> it shows it is loading the correct driver, something is muted somewhere
> or maybe it is as simple as you have the speakers plugged into the wrong
> plug.  I did that once on my first build.  I had two green plugs.  Sort
> of got the wrong one.  ;-)
> 
> I can't think of anything else at the moment.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 

It looks like it's got a driver from the following:
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0

The full output is below.

# lspci -k
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb Host Bridge (rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-amd64
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb LPC Bridge (rev a2)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce 250Gb PCI System Management
(rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK8S USB Controller (rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
	Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK8S USB Controller (rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
	Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 EHCI USB 2.0
Controller (rev a2)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
	Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: forcedeth
	Kernel modules: forcedeth
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Parallel ATA Controller
(v2.5) (rev a2)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: AMD_IDE
	Kernel modules: ata_generic, pata_acpi, pata_amd
00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Serial ATA Controller
(rev a2)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
	Kernel driver in use: sata_nv
	Kernel modules: ata_generic, pata_acpi, sata_nv
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AGP Host to PCI
Bridge (rev a2)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb PCI-to-PCI Bridge
(rev a2)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX
5700LE] (rev a1)
	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
	Kernel modules: nvidia

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Dale]

dhk wrote:
> On 01/23/2011 07:20 AM, Dale wrote:
>    
>> dhk wrote:
>>      
>>> On 01/23/2011 06:10 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to
>>>>> unumte the channels with?)
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to unmute the channells;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute
>>>> the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa controls
>>>> the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit
>>>> something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound.  Finding
>>>> them all is fun tho.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I had all the channels unmuted.  I ran alsamixer and
>>> gnome-volume-control to unmute and to verify, but still no sound.  In
>>> the /etc/make.conf I have ALSA_CARDS="AC97" set, but I don't think that
>>> matters according to the documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Does lspci -k show it is using some sort of driver?  Mine for example
>> shows this:
>>
>> 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be2 (rev a1)
>>          Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 069a
>>          Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>>
>> If yours doesn't show a kernel driver in use, then it is likely a driver
>> problem.  If it does show one, make sure it is the correct one.  I
>> usually use this as a guide:
>>
>> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
>>
>> Just run the lspci -n command and paste it in there.  It works well.  If
>> it shows it is loading the correct driver, something is muted somewhere
>> or maybe it is as simple as you have the speakers plugged into the wrong
>> plug.  I did that once on my first build.  I had two green plugs.  Sort
>> of got the wrong one.  ;-)
>>
>> I can't think of anything else at the moment.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>>      
> It looks like it's got a driver from the following:
> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
> 	Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
> 	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>
> The full output is below.
>
> # lspci -k
> <<SNIP>>
> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
> 	Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
> 	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>    

 From that, I would think it is working driver and hardware wise, key 
word is think.  The only things I can think of is something somewhere is 
muted or plugged up wrong.  Do you have something like this:

root@fireball / # ls -al /dev/snd/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      420 Jan 22 00:44 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root     4380 Jan 22 00:45 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root       80 Jan 22 00:44 by-path
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 10 Jan 22 00:44 controlC0
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 19 Jan 22 00:44 controlC1
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  9 Jan 22 00:44 hwC0D0
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 18 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D0
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 17 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D1
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 16 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D2
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 15 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D3
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  8 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  7 Jan 23 06:37 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  6 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  5 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  4 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 14 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D3p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 13 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D7p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 12 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D8p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 11 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D9p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  3 Jan 22 00:44 seq
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  2 Jan 22 00:44 timer
root@fireball / #

Yours may vary a bit so it is just something to compare too.  I think we 
are using different cards but some should look the same.  I list those 
because my sound works here.

Can I also assume you have checked to make sure you are in the right 
groups for sound?  I would think audio would be the only one needed but 
since we are grasping at straws, compare to this:

root@fireball / # cat /etc/group | grep dale
tty::5:nut,dale
lp::7:lp,dale
wheel::10:root,dale
uucp::14:uucp,nut,dale
audio::18:dale
cdrom::19:haldaemon,dale
dialout::20:root,dale
video::27:root,dale
usb::85:haldaemon,dale
users::100:games,dale
utmp:x:406:dale
lpadmin:x:106:dale
games:x:35:dale
plugdev:x:999:haldaemon,dale
dale:x:1000:
nut:x:84:nut,dale
wireshark:x:993:dale
root@fireball / #

Again, yours may vary but it may help.  This may not help but at least 
you can be pretty sure of what it is not.  When working on something 
like this, am I the only one that feels like Sherlock Holmes?  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

On 01/23/2011 07:44 AM, Dale wrote:
> dhk wrote:
>> On 01/23/2011 07:20 AM, Dale wrote:
>>   
>>> dhk wrote:
>>>     
>>>> On 01/23/2011 06:10 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to
>>>>>> unumte the channels with?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to unmute the channells;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>> I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute
>>>>> the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa
>>>>> controls
>>>>> the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit
>>>>> something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound. 
>>>>> Finding
>>>>> them all is fun tho.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> I had all the channels unmuted.  I ran alsamixer and
>>>> gnome-volume-control to unmute and to verify, but still no sound.  In
>>>> the /etc/make.conf I have ALSA_CARDS="AC97" set, but I don't think that
>>>> matters according to the documentation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> Does lspci -k show it is using some sort of driver?  Mine for example
>>> shows this:
>>>
>>> 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be2 (rev a1)
>>>          Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 069a
>>>          Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>>>
>>> If yours doesn't show a kernel driver in use, then it is likely a driver
>>> problem.  If it does show one, make sure it is the correct one.  I
>>> usually use this as a guide:
>>>
>>> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
>>>
>>> Just run the lspci -n command and paste it in there.  It works well.  If
>>> it shows it is loading the correct driver, something is muted somewhere
>>> or maybe it is as simple as you have the speakers plugged into the wrong
>>> plug.  I did that once on my first build.  I had two green plugs.  Sort
>>> of got the wrong one.  ;-)
>>>
>>> I can't think of anything else at the moment.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> It looks like it's got a driver from the following:
>> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
>> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
>>     Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
>>     Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
>>     Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>>
>> The full output is below.
>>
>> # lspci -k
>> <<SNIP>>
>> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
>> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
>>     Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
>>     Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
>>     Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>>    
> 
> From that, I would think it is working driver and hardware wise, key
> word is think.  The only things I can think of is something somewhere is
> muted or plugged up wrong.  Do you have something like this:
> 
> root@fireball / # ls -al /dev/snd/
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      420 Jan 22 00:44 .
> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root     4380 Jan 22 00:45 ..
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root       80 Jan 22 00:44 by-path
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 10 Jan 22 00:44 controlC0
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 19 Jan 22 00:44 controlC1
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  9 Jan 22 00:44 hwC0D0
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 18 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D0
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 17 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D1
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 16 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D2
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 15 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D3
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  8 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D0c
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  7 Jan 23 06:37 pcmC0D0p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  6 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D1c
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  5 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D1p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  4 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D2c
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 14 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D3p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 13 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D7p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 12 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D8p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 11 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D9p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  3 Jan 22 00:44 seq
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  2 Jan 22 00:44 timer
> root@fireball / #
> 
> Yours may vary a bit so it is just something to compare too.  I think we
> are using different cards but some should look the same.  I list those
> because my sound works here.
> 
> Can I also assume you have checked to make sure you are in the right
> groups for sound?  I would think audio would be the only one needed but
> since we are grasping at straws, compare to this:
> 
> root@fireball / # cat /etc/group | grep dale
> tty::5:nut,dale
> lp::7:lp,dale
> wheel::10:root,dale
> uucp::14:uucp,nut,dale
> audio::18:dale
> cdrom::19:haldaemon,dale
> dialout::20:root,dale
> video::27:root,dale
> usb::85:haldaemon,dale
> users::100:games,dale
> utmp:x:406:dale
> lpadmin:x:106:dale
> games:x:35:dale
> plugdev:x:999:haldaemon,dale
> dale:x:1000:
> nut:x:84:nut,dale
> wireshark:x:993:dale
> root@fireball / #
> 
> Again, yours may vary but it may help.  This may not help but at least
> you can be pretty sure of what it is not.  When working on something
> like this, am I the only one that feels like Sherlock Holmes?  lol
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 

By the way, that link is really good.  It did confirm that I'm using the
correct driver.  I checked the plugs and nothing.  I think I might try
another sound card.  The one I've been trying to get working is part of
the mother board.  I'm sure I have a Sound Blaster around somewhere.
I'll let you know if that maks a difference.

. . . and yes I have the following.
# ls -al /dev/snd/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      240 Jan 21 12:49 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root     3880 Jan 21 12:50 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root       60 Jan 21 12:49 by-path
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  9 Jan 21 12:49 controlC0
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  4 Jan 21 12:49 controlC1
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  3 Jan 21 12:49 midiC1D0
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  8 Jan 23 06:56 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  7 Jan 23 07:48 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  6 Jan 21 12:49 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  5 Jan 21 12:49 pcmC0D2p
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 10 Jan 21 12:49 seq
crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  2 Jan 21 12:49 timer

Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

On 01/23/2011 07:55 AM, dhk wrote:
> On 01/23/2011 07:44 AM, Dale wrote:
>> dhk wrote:
>>> On 01/23/2011 07:20 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>   
>>>> dhk wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>> On 01/23/2011 06:10 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>> Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>> Alsaconf will probe the right module for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have you run alsamixer? (Or gmixer or whichever mixer you like to
>>>>>>> unumte the channels with?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to unmute the channells;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>> I will add this.  It seems every time I do a install, I have to unmute
>>>>>> the sound with both alsa and Kmix to get sound.  I assume alsa
>>>>>> controls
>>>>>> the card itself and kmix is sort of like software.  You may have hit
>>>>>> something similar here.  If even one thing is muted, no sound. 
>>>>>> Finding
>>>>>> them all is fun tho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dale
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>> I had all the channels unmuted.  I ran alsamixer and
>>>>> gnome-volume-control to unmute and to verify, but still no sound.  In
>>>>> the /etc/make.conf I have ALSA_CARDS="AC97" set, but I don't think that
>>>>> matters according to the documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>> Does lspci -k show it is using some sort of driver?  Mine for example
>>>> shows this:
>>>>
>>>> 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be2 (rev a1)
>>>>          Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 069a
>>>>          Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>>>>
>>>> If yours doesn't show a kernel driver in use, then it is likely a driver
>>>> problem.  If it does show one, make sure it is the correct one.  I
>>>> usually use this as a guide:
>>>>
>>>> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
>>>>
>>>> Just run the lspci -n command and paste it in there.  It works well.  If
>>>> it shows it is loading the correct driver, something is muted somewhere
>>>> or maybe it is as simple as you have the speakers plugged into the wrong
>>>> plug.  I did that once on my first build.  I had two green plugs.  Sort
>>>> of got the wrong one.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I can't think of anything else at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>> It looks like it's got a driver from the following:
>>> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
>>> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
>>>     Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
>>>     Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
>>>     Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>>>
>>> The full output is below.
>>>
>>> # lspci -k
>>> <<SNIP>>
>>> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb
>>> AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
>>>     Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8N-E
>>>     Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
>>>     Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>>>    
>>
>> From that, I would think it is working driver and hardware wise, key
>> word is think.  The only things I can think of is something somewhere is
>> muted or plugged up wrong.  Do you have something like this:
>>
>> root@fireball / # ls -al /dev/snd/
>> total 0
>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      420 Jan 22 00:44 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root     4380 Jan 22 00:45 ..
>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root       80 Jan 22 00:44 by-path
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 10 Jan 22 00:44 controlC0
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 19 Jan 22 00:44 controlC1
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  9 Jan 22 00:44 hwC0D0
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 18 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D0
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 17 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D1
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 16 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D2
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 15 Jan 22 00:44 hwC1D3
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  8 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D0c
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  7 Jan 23 06:37 pcmC0D0p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  6 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D1c
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  5 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D1p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  4 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC0D2c
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 14 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D3p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 13 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D7p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 12 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D8p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 11 Jan 22 00:44 pcmC1D9p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  3 Jan 22 00:44 seq
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  2 Jan 22 00:44 timer
>> root@fireball / #
>>
>> Yours may vary a bit so it is just something to compare too.  I think we
>> are using different cards but some should look the same.  I list those
>> because my sound works here.
>>
>> Can I also assume you have checked to make sure you are in the right
>> groups for sound?  I would think audio would be the only one needed but
>> since we are grasping at straws, compare to this:
>>
>> root@fireball / # cat /etc/group | grep dale
>> tty::5:nut,dale
>> lp::7:lp,dale
>> wheel::10:root,dale
>> uucp::14:uucp,nut,dale
>> audio::18:dale
>> cdrom::19:haldaemon,dale
>> dialout::20:root,dale
>> video::27:root,dale
>> usb::85:haldaemon,dale
>> users::100:games,dale
>> utmp:x:406:dale
>> lpadmin:x:106:dale
>> games:x:35:dale
>> plugdev:x:999:haldaemon,dale
>> dale:x:1000:
>> nut:x:84:nut,dale
>> wireshark:x:993:dale
>> root@fireball / #
>>
>> Again, yours may vary but it may help.  This may not help but at least
>> you can be pretty sure of what it is not.  When working on something
>> like this, am I the only one that feels like Sherlock Holmes?  lol
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
> 
> By the way, that link is really good.  It did confirm that I'm using the
> correct driver.  I checked the plugs and nothing.  I think I might try
> another sound card.  The one I've been trying to get working is part of
> the mother board.  I'm sure I have a Sound Blaster around somewhere.
> I'll let you know if that maks a difference.
> 
> . . . and yes I have the following.
> # ls -al /dev/snd/
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      240 Jan 21 12:49 .
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root     3880 Jan 21 12:50 ..
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root       60 Jan 21 12:49 by-path
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  9 Jan 21 12:49 controlC0
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  4 Jan 21 12:49 controlC1
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  3 Jan 21 12:49 midiC1D0
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  8 Jan 23 06:56 pcmC0D0c
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  7 Jan 23 07:48 pcmC0D0p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  6 Jan 21 12:49 pcmC0D1c
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  5 Jan 21 12:49 pcmC0D2p
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 10 Jan 21 12:49 seq
> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  2 Jan 21 12:49 timer
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

The Sound Blaster didn't work either.  Should I try enabling the
deprecated OSS in the kernel?

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Dale]

dhk wrote:
> On 01/23/2011 07:55 AM, dhk wrote:
>    
>>
>> By the way, that link is really good.  It did confirm that I'm using the
>> correct driver.  I checked the plugs and nothing.  I think I might try
>> another sound card.  The one I've been trying to get working is part of
>> the mother board.  I'm sure I have a Sound Blaster around somewhere.
>> I'll let you know if that maks a difference.
>>
>> . . . and yes I have the following.
>> # ls -al /dev/snd/
>> total 0
>> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      240 Jan 21 12:49 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root     3880 Jan 21 12:50 ..
>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root       60 Jan 21 12:49 by-path
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  9 Jan 21 12:49 controlC0
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  4 Jan 21 12:49 controlC1
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  3 Jan 21 12:49 midiC1D0
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  8 Jan 23 06:56 pcmC0D0c
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  7 Jan 23 07:48 pcmC0D0p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  6 Jan 21 12:49 pcmC0D1c
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  5 Jan 21 12:49 pcmC0D2p
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 10 Jan 21 12:49 seq
>> crw-rw----  1 root audio 116,  2 Jan 21 12:49 timer
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>      
> The Sound Blaster didn't work either.  Should I try enabling the
> deprecated OSS in the kernel?
>
>    

I think that link was posted on here a long time ago and I bookmarked 
it.  There is another site that I think is Redhat based that is close to 
the same thing.  I just like the one I posted better.  It has yet to 
lead me to the wrong driver.  Another good thing about that link, on the 
left, you can find your mobo by model number and see if everything is 
supported before you buy.  Real nice and helpful site, even if it is 
Debian.  lol

Are you sure it is enabled in the BIOS and has the correct setting, if 
anything can even be changed?  I guess it could be that the audio part 
is bad but I still suspect something is muted somewhere.  I have ran 
into this so many times it is ridiculous.

I don't think it would hurt to try the OSS drivers.  If it works, cool.  
If not, you tried one more thing and eliminated that as a cause.  I 
still feel like we are in Sherlock Holmes territory here.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[pk]

On 2011-01-23 14:23, dhk wrote:

> The Sound Blaster didn't work either.  Should I try enabling the
> deprecated OSS in the kernel?

You can always try it but I highly doubt it would improve the situation...

What sound related USE flags have you enabled (i.e. alsa, oss[for
compatibility] etc.)?

Are you using any sound daemons (like Esound or Pulseaudio)? Shut them
down. Are you sure you've plugged the speaker/headphone cable(s) into
the right jack? Whenever I install a new computer I always put some
music on and try the different audio jacks to find the right one. How do
you play sound to verify that you have (or not, in your case) sound? For
the last part I would advise to keep it as simple as possible i.e. try
ogg123 or mpg123 or mplayer (as an example).

Best regards

Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Peter Humphrey]

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On Sunday 23 January 2011 13:23:58 dhk wrote:

Until you fellows start trimming your replies so that I don't have to 
scroll down several pages to find the one line you've added, I will not 
bother. Your contributions will go unread here.

It's been a hard day and you make it harder.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[dhk]

On 01/23/2011 12:47 PM, pk wrote:
> On 2011-01-23 14:23, dhk wrote:
> 
>> The Sound Blaster didn't work either.  Should I try enabling the
>> deprecated OSS in the kernel?
> 
> You can always try it but I highly doubt it would improve the situation...
> 
> What sound related USE flags have you enabled (i.e. alsa, oss[for
> compatibility] etc.)?
> 
> Are you using any sound daemons (like Esound or Pulseaudio)? Shut them
> down. Are you sure you've plugged the speaker/headphone cable(s) into
> the right jack? Whenever I install a new computer I always put some
> music on and try the different audio jacks to find the right one. How do
> you play sound to verify that you have (or not, in your case) sound? For
> the last part I would advise to keep it as simple as possible i.e. try
> ogg123 or mpg123 or mplayer (as an example).
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Peter K
> 
> 

My make.conf Use is: USE="-arts -doc -evo -firefox -kde -qt -qt3 -qt4
-java X alsa cairo cdr device-mapper extras gdu gnome gtk jpeg png
policykit sqlite svg tiff udev xml xulrunner xvmc"

Everything is plugged in correctly and checked many times.  As far as I
know there aren't any sound daemons running, this is a new install, only
a couple of weeks old.  Everything looks like it should be working, the
only thing is I don't hear anything.  Since I hear other things I'm sure
I'm not deaf and can rule that out.  This is a basic set up with lvm2,
gnome, firefox, thunderbird, and openoffice.  That's about it, nothing
fancy.

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[Dale]

dhk wrote:
> My make.conf Use is: USE="-arts -doc -evo -firefox -kde -qt -qt3 -qt4
> -java X alsa cairo cdr device-mapper extras gdu gnome gtk jpeg png
> policykit sqlite svg tiff udev xml xulrunner xvmc"
>
> Everything is plugged in correctly and checked many times.  As far as I
> know there aren't any sound daemons running, this is a new install, only
> a couple of weeks old.  Everything looks like it should be working, the
> only thing is I don't hear anything.  Since I hear other things I'm sure
> I'm not deaf and can rule that out.  This is a basic set up with lvm2,
> gnome, firefox, thunderbird, and openoffice.  That's about it, nothing
> fancy.
>
>    

Take a look at mine, and the command I used to get it.  Keep in mind, 
there are also USE setting that are set by your profile not just make.conf.

root@fireball / # emerge --info | grep USE=
USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac acpi alsa amd64 aml auto-hinter automount 
avahi berkdb bzip2 cairo cddb cdr chroot cleartype cli clucene 
consolekit corefonts cracklib cups curl cxx dbus dri dvd dvdr emboss 
encode escreen esd exif fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gdbm gdu gif 
gimp gkrellm gnutls gphoto2 gpm gtk hal hbci hddtemp iconv ipv6 java 
javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde lcms ldap libnotify libwww 
logrotate loop-aes mad mdnsresponder-compat melt mikmod mmx mng modules 
mp3 mp4 mpeg mplayer mudflap multilib mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly 
nsplugin offensive ofx ogg opengl openmp pam pango parport pcre pdf perl 
png policykit ppds ppp pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 readline sasl sdl 
seamonkey semantic-desktop session sift smp spell sse sse2 ssl 
startup-notification svg sysfs syslog tcl tcpd threads tiff tk truetype 
type1 udev unicode usb vcd vorbis webkit wma wmf x264 xcb xml xorg xv 
xvid yahoo zeroconf zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp 
atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 
fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx 
via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare 
dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter 
mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" 
APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon 
authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default 
authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi 
cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter 
file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime 
mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir 
usertrack vhost_alias" CAMERAS="canon ptp2" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df 
interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" 
GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt 
gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore 
rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx" 
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad 
cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" 
LINGUAS="en_US en" PHP_TARGETS="php5-3" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18" 
USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock 
lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee 
tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
root@fireball / #

Compare those and see if you see something.  Note the ALSA settings 
too.  I'm not sure you need the same as me but you may need something to 
enable the sound.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA - No Sound

[pk]

On 2011-01-24 00:49, dhk wrote:

> Everything is plugged in correctly and checked many times.  As far as I
> know there aren't any sound daemons running, this is a new install, only
> a couple of weeks old.  Everything looks like it should be working, the
> only thing is I don't hear anything.  Since I hear other things I'm sure
> I'm not deaf and can rule that out.  This is a basic set up with lvm2,
> gnome, firefox, thunderbird, and openoffice.  That's about it, nothing
> fancy.

Ok, then I'm stumped... unless there's something in Gnome that's
creating a problem? I don't run Gnome (or KDE) for that reason. Did you
try a "simple" program (like ogg123, mpg123 etc.) to output sound? I've
come across sound/music programs (well, versions of them at least) that
doesn't output any sound...

Btw, have you tried a live cd (ubuntu, fedora etc.) to see if you can
get sound? If you get working sound you may be able to copy the settings
from that...

Best regards

Peter K