From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PM7G7-0001Na-K3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:59:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF6DDE0527; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.deploylinux.net (mail1.deploylinux.net [209.216.192.150]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70BDE0527 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.deploylinux.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127F226D004; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:56:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at deploylinux.net Received: from mail1.deploylinux.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.deploylinux.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CSfYC8Zmi2h6; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from hyperion.deploylinux.net (hyperion.deploylinux.net [66.93.35.200]) by mail1.deploylinux.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2669D26D003; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:56:17 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Marlowe Organization: DeployLinux Consulting, Inc To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:56:36 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r1c; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Dale References: <4CF0269F.9030702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CF0269F.9030702@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201011261456.36800.matt@deploylinux.net> X-Archives-Salt: 79a94028-737a-400d-ad2f-818726471bdf X-Archives-Hash: 2ed84305c7729e86ae5334f7d4f2cf9a Dale, One thing to keep in mind w/ power supplies is that you don't want to run them normally at more than X% of peak capacity -- most of them have a sweet spot in load where they are rated for efficiency and noise. Choose your power supply based on that load % rather than max required wattage. Most of the vendor websites will have a graph of power/noise versus wattage. For a new system which you may keep around for 5-10 years and upgrade as time goes by, I'd consider putting in a ~800W unit which hopefully you'll run at under 50% load. I've had very good experience with OCZ models. The 800W is based on some reading I had done that indicated that newer motherboards/cpu's/+higher end video cards would bring power util in the ~400-500W range. I'm sure you can google for your own calculator. I'm not that familiar with the other components you listed, but I've definitely had better experience w/ Kingston ram than crucial, and thermaltake makes good cases and chassis accessories. For motherboards, I've always been partial to ASUS or Gigabyte for workstations/desktops. Regards, Matt On Friday, November 26, 2010 01:29:03 pm Dale wrote: > I'm planning to build a new rig. My current rig is about 7 or 8 years > old now and it needs to be updated. Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs > of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo. Couple hard drives too. > > New build #1 with links and all. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 > > COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black case. I included this > because of the rather LARGE CPU heatsink that is going to be listed > later. I did a google image search and saw it in other rigs so it > should fit in there. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130265 > > MSI 790XT-G45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X motherboard. It's not the latest > but it is a OK mobo. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125296 > > GIGABYTE GV-N210OC-512I GeForce 210 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 > x16 HDCP video card. I don't do gaming. Actually, my old FX-5200 does > pretty well but won't fit in the new mobo. I really don't need a super > fast video card here. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116 > > Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V Power supply. I > like this brand and would like to stay with this but if the price is > right, I could be tempted to change my mind. My biggest question on > this, can this handle this mobo, CPU, video card and 3 to 4 drives > including a DVD burner? > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103644 > > AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB > L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor. From the searches I did, > this should fit this mobo fine. Agree? > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073 > > Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 Desktop > Memory. I have used this brand before with not one problem. Like > before, if the price is right, I could change this. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118056 > > ZALMAN CNPS10X FLEX CPU Cooler. This thing got good reviews and it is > not priced to high. According to the searches I have done this will fit > the mobo/CPU and should fit in the case. Any disagreements on this? > > This is build #2: > > I'll be using the same case, power supply, video card etc so I won't > list them all twice. Just listing the things that have to be changed. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 > > GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard. The only > thing I don't like about this is that it doesn't have a com port for my > UPS. I guess a adapter will be found somewhere. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675 > > AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket > AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor. This should fit the mobo according to the > website. Agree? > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148325 > > Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) > Desktop Memory. According to newegg this fits the mobo. Agree? > > I only plan to build one or the other not both. I would like to make > sure everything should fit fine but I would also like to get a opinion. > I would like a opinion on whether build #2 would be better in the long > run? It appears to be a bit faster although the price is not much > different. Build #1 is $611.92. Build #2 is $637.92. That doesn't > include shipping but a lot of the items have free shipping anyway. > Basically, I need this to last me several years since I can't afford to > rebuild every few years. Also, one reason for the HUGE CPU cooler, I > run folding in the winter. Helps heat the place up a bit. lol My > current rig with a Volcano 12 runs at about 90F at full load. I would > like to run pretty close to that since it just makes the CPU last longer. > > I'm open to ideas, discussion, problems and opinions. I mostly want to > make sure each build will work and which I should build. > > Thanks for your time and replies. If you need more info, let me know. > > Dale > > :-) :-) -- Matthew Marlowe / 858-400-7430 / DeployLinux Consulting, Inc Professional Linux Hosting and Systems Administration Services www.deploylinux.net * matt@deploylinux.net 'MattM' @ irc.freenode.net